I'm a big Fisher fan, but his weakness is that so far he lacks the ability to close faster than ~55 seconds. This is why he regularly loses tactical races to inferior runners. He has struggled to win national titles and he has a lot of 2nd and 3rd place finishes in his resume (to people like Teare, McDonald, Klecker, McGorty and the like).
His strength is that he can run very fast times, and he can close in 55 off pretty much any pace (54.9 on Friday, in a 26:40 race).
Those of you saying Rupp and Fishers times are close… they aren’t. 12:58 v 12:44…. That’s not close. Fisher has run consistently under 12:55 many times indoor and out. 26:33 and 26:44 are closer but still not. Shoes don’t give you 14 seconds in a 5k lol… Also, while he didn’t have super shoes, let’s not act like Rupp didn’t have every possible advantage (grey area or not) at his disposal.
Id say after this meet Grant nudged just ahead of Rupp if we’re talking track. If you throw in Marathon Rupp probably has the edge currently.
Those of you saying Rupp and Fishers times are close… they aren’t. 12:58 v 12:44…. That’s not close. Fisher has run consistently under 12:55 many times indoor and out. 26:33 and 26:44 are closer but still not. Shoes don’t give you 14 seconds in a 5k lol… Also, while he didn’t have super shoes, let’s not act like Rupp didn’t have every possible advantage (grey area or not) at his disposal.
Id say after this meet Grant nudged just ahead of Rupp if we’re talking track. If you throw in Marathon Rupp probably has the edge currently.
Exactly. People defending a guy that slept in an altitude tent and had a professional (sus, btw) coach in high school, trained as a pro through college, had custom prototype shoes, etc.
Those of you saying Rupp and Fishers times are close… they aren’t. 12:58 v 12:44…. That’s not close. Fisher has run consistently under 12:55 many times indoor and out. 26:33 and 26:44 are closer but still not. Shoes don’t give you 14 seconds in a 5k lol… Also, while he didn’t have super shoes, let’s not act like Rupp didn’t have every possible advantage (grey area or not) at his disposal.
Id say after this meet Grant nudged just ahead of Rupp if we’re talking track. If you throw in Marathon Rupp probably has the edge currently.
Exactly. People defending a guy that slept in an altitude tent and had a professional (sus, btw) coach in high school, trained as a pro through college, had custom prototype shoes, etc.
Nonsense. Time is not really a factor, it is how you did against other competition at the time. Rupp has outperformed Fisher to date. Would you say Jessie Owens is trash because he is slow to today's standards? What about Carl Lewis? What about Phelps and his 23 GOLD MEDALS but no WRs? People will always get faster so I reject using that as the deciding factor.
Exactly. People defending a guy that slept in an altitude tent and had a professional (sus, btw) coach in high school, trained as a pro through college, had custom prototype shoes, etc.
Nonsense. Time is not really a factor, it is how you did against other competition at the time. Rupp has outperformed Fisher to date. Would you say Jessie Owens is trash because he is slow to today's standards? What about Carl Lewis? What about Phelps and his 23 GOLD MEDALS but no WRs? People will always get faster so I reject using that as the deciding factor.
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Competition is better in Fisher’s era than in Rupp’s era. And Fisher just left with TWO medals. Case closed.
Fisher ran Rupp’s PR in the 10000m - with a faster last 400m - to get 3rd in the Olympics.
What did Rupp finish in the 5000m after his 2nd place in the 10000m? …7th. (Puke, garbage- LOL)
Imagine Fisher stayed where he was with 200m to go today. That’s basically what Rupp did in his 5000m. Instead, Fisher passed 5 guys - 3 at once with 50m to go - and earned the bronze.