amazing you were able to see into the future when the British election results haven't even been counted yet
The Labour Party landslide you're on about are exit polls ffs. Try and stick to facts.
Happily it is now real, with only 3 seats to call, Labour 412, everyone else combined not many, 326 is the winning point. A great day for decent people.
With nearly all of the 650 seats declared, Keir Starmer is expected to be the new prime minister as the Labour party secures a majority. Follow the final results and find out how your constituency voted
If anything they slightly underestimated the Labour result. But lurking in an otherwise great night is the fact Nigel Farage's party got 14% of the vote.
It is good in a way to have a good handle on how many people in the UK are racist.
Politics in the UK are much different than the US. Many, many parties and votes get split up accordingly. It’s the direction I see America going. You’ll end up having far left, moderate left, moderate right, and far right parties. It’s kind of already like that. But not official. Eventually the Dems and GOP should split into two each. Maybe more. Presidential elections would have four choices. This would allow people to choose a candidate that closely aligns to their beliefs. Right now, the majority of people don’t have a candidate that they like. Most are moderates and they have to choose between a far right Trump or a left of moderate left Biden. If we had two other candidates in the middle, I’d bet one of the other two wins easily. Think of people like Joe Manchin and Liz Cheney. They are effectively moderates. A lot of people on both sides would agree with their common sense policies.
Congress isn’t a parliament. The system incentivizes candidates to join one of the two major parties, and actively disincentivizes third party runs, let alone multi-party elections.
Went with the right wing, racist Labour Party over the right wing Conservatives.
Keir Starmer is a friend of Israel. It would be an easy task to use his unstinting support for Israel as it continues to pulverise Gaza as the exclusive evidence of that. That would suggest he previously had no real stance and only became invested in matters pertaining to Israel and Palestine following the 7 October attacks. The horror of the day compelled him to stand with Israel, so the argument might go. That logic lets him off lightly. That’s not, however, to minimise what he said. The now infamous endorsement on LBC of Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians as Israeli defence minister Yoav Gallant declared a total siege and cut off all water, food and power was reprehensible. The decision to whip his party to vote against a ceasefire when Israel had already killed more than 10,000 Palestinians and to later reprimand an MP for daring to suggest the killing on an industrial scale in Gaza amounts to genocide is unforgivable. But just as Israel’s systematic ethnic cleansing did not commence following 7 October, neither did Keir Starmer’s enthusiastic championing of the settler colonial project. To understand what will happen moving forwards is to take a cursory glance at what has come prior. “I support Zionism without qualification”, the former human rights lawyer proclaimed shortly after winning the Labour leadership contest. The statement amounted to an embodiment of the phrase, “begin as you mean to go on”. At this critical juncture, where from Gaza to the West Bank, Palestinians are facing oppression, occupation and land theft, unwavering Palestinian solidarity paired with firm support for avenues that sustain global pressure against Israel are integral. But those are the very avenues that Keir Starmer has previously been indifferent about or actively neutralised. For example, the International Court of Justice case, brought by South Africa accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza, has only been met with a deafening silence from the former human rights lawyer. Its importance can’t be understated. Analysts suggest the court case could accentuate Israel’s crimes and therein catalyse the global diplomatic and political isolation of Israel. Becoming an international pariah heavily contributed to the demise of apartheid in South Africa, so there is precedent and perhaps room for cautious optimism. And yet Keir Starmer has failed to offer anything substantively on the court case. In fact, he still won’t countenance using the term genocide to describe the cataclysmic conditions on the ground in Gaza as Israel’s slaughter continues unabated, instead scoffing at the suggestion of applying the word. That is true to form. In April 2022, Keir Starmer was asked whether he agrees with Amnesty International’s forensic report that concluded Israel is an apartheid state. He categorically rejected it.
Same thing will happen here in November. People are tired of the hatred and negativity coming from the right.
The writing is on the wall. Don’t be surprised when it happens.
I realize this a bit of troll post, but honestly, the reason votes revolted on the conservative in UK is that the check came due on the fallout from Brexit. All the warnings that anti-Brexit people gave about the economy, freedom of movement, etc. turned out to be pretty accurate--so much so that even some of the people who voted for it ten years ago see it now as a grievous error.
On the other hand, the US does not have a defining issue like Brexit to encourage a mass electoral shift like Labour experienced (and that's before factoring in the idiosyncracies of our electoral process vs. parliamentary govenments).
Same thing will happen here in November. People are tired of the hatred and negativity coming from the right.
The writing is on the wall. Don’t be surprised when it happens.
I realize this a bit of troll post, but honestly, the reason votes revolted on the conservative in UK is that the check came due on the fallout from Brexit. All the warnings that anti-Brexit people gave about the economy, freedom of movement, etc. turned out to be pretty accurate--so much so that even some of the people who voted for it ten years ago see it now as a grievous error.
On the other hand, the US does not have a defining issue like Brexit to encourage a mass electoral shift like Labour experienced (and that's before factoring in the idiosyncracies of our electoral process vs. parliamentary govenments).
Indeed. Brexit is Putin's biggest win so far, and UK voters finally want to attempt to repair the damage. Vlad is hoping for a grand slam in the US, but we'll see.
I realize this a bit of troll post, but honestly, the reason votes revolted on the conservative in UK is that the check came due on the fallout from Brexit. All the warnings that anti-Brexit people gave about the economy, freedom of movement, etc. turned out to be pretty accurate--so much so that even some of the people who voted for it ten years ago see it now as a grievous error.
On the other hand, the US does not have a defining issue like Brexit to encourage a mass electoral shift like Labour experienced (and that's before factoring in the idiosyncracies of our electoral process vs. parliamentary govenments).
Indeed. Brexit is Putin's biggest win so far, and UK voters finally want to attempt to repair the damage. Vlad is hoping for a grand slam in the US, but we'll see.
Same thing will happen here in November. People are tired of the hatred and negativity coming from the right.
The writing is on the wall. Don’t be surprised when it happens.
The difference is in the UK the results will be accepted with grace for the most part. Here, if the childish Trumpanzees don't get what they want, they'll have a meltdown and storm the capitol and smear right wing feces everywhere again. We should equip the capitol with sufficient toilet paper and vegetables (right wingers hate salads and vegetables) as a deterrent.
That's funny.
The left believes so much in democracy they
a) want to pack the supreme court so it will do whatever they want it to do b) want to elect a disabled man who clearly isn't capable of running the country and thus must be controlled by someone we didn't elect and c) Jail the opposition parties rival.
Trump is a scumbag of a human. But the reality is no one fears democracy is at stake. Trump DID leave office. And if he hadn't, he would have been removed by force. We have a great system of checks and balances.
The right would be happy to accept all election outcomes if all voting was a) done in person and b) with ID.
Why would a person on the right believe anything the left tells them?
We were told a) The vaccine couldn't have come from a lab - oh wait. b) That biden is as sharp as can be.
Indeed. Brexit is Putin's biggest win so far, and UK voters finally want to attempt to repair the damage. Vlad is hoping for a grand slam in the US, but we'll see.
Putin?
Yes Putin. Most people in the UK acknowledge that Brexit was a huge F-up. An unforced error. An own goal. And the cause of it was Putin disinformation.
Yes Putin. Most people in the UK acknowledge that Brexit was a huge F-up. An unforced error. An own goal. And the cause of it was Putin disinformation.
I don't know a rational person I have spoken to in the UK who thinks Brexit has been anything other than a complete, unmitigated disaster. The problem with democracy is that there is no basic intelligence test to vote and there are no checks on blatant lying by politicians. This of course massively favours right-wing parties.
Can you ever imagine a current American politician making a concession speech like this:
"On this difficult night, I'd like to express my gratitude to the people of the Richmond and Northallerton constituency for your continued support," he says.
"The Labour Party has won this general election, and I've called Sir Keir Starmer to congratulate him on his victory.
"Today, power will change hands in a peaceful and orderly manner, with goodwill on all sides. That is something that should give us all confidence in our country's stability and future.
"The British people have delivered a sobering verdict tonight, there is much to learn... and I take responsibility for the loss.
"To the many good, hard-working Conservative candidates who lost tonight, despite their tireless efforts, their local records and delivery, and their dedication to their communities. I am sorry."
It would be wild if Reform gets near 20% of the total national vote, outperforming the polls and pundits. Alas, it won't translate into 20% of the seats, but still very significant.
