Also one thing I would say is we shouldn't let the "legend of the close" start morphing into its own thing.
I know Letsrun reported a 12.34 close for Cohen but I'm calling that out and going on record and saying that is BS - where is that number coming from? I was sitting on the final straight curve literally 40 feet from the 100m to go point recording the finish on my phone and he is right at the shoulder of Charles Jones and the clock is reading 1.32.3. So yes it's another express finish but it's not 12.3 - it's more in the 12.5/6 range and for the sake of what we are talking about, that matters.
NCAA's was still more insane because not only was it faster by about a tenth, it was way more difficult to get there (outlined above).
Just wanted to make sure we stayed somewhat accurate as I read a 12.2 being thrown out there and before we know it, he might have even closed in sub 12 :D
https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/trackfield/us-olympic-trials-womenSeems like a pretty safe bet to put even $ on both - should be guaranteed 1 of those 2 wins
Go to results.usatf.com, go to the 800m semis on Friday June 28th, and click 100m splits at the top of the page. Murphy and Miller don't have their splits recorded so there might've been some timing issues, but Cohen's final split is a 12.34 according to USATF
Now I see it. Thanks. So they have him 1.32.59 at 700m but that is simply wrong unless the stadium timing is so far off what they are looking at/where these splits come from. As mentioned I have a freeze frame of him and Crisp crossing the 700m point and the timing is at 1.32.3. Maybe a tenth of a second is plausible (even though it’s usually much less) but three? But either way I now understand the “12.34” claim. Cheers.
That finish reminds me of Robby Andrews and Nick Symmonds.. and way back, Tony Parrilla. He runs his 800s almost even split, while everyone else is slowing down. I don’t think it means that he’s doping
I ran briefly at Tampa with Shane. They dont face any strong competition so it’s hard to pace in their meets. Now hes in a D1 program running against U.S. top 50s p consistently. Iron sharpens iron. And just to end the debate, he’s clean lol
Yet another finish where he went from 8th to near 1st (letting up because he easily qualified) with a massive kick over the final 100. Considering that the NCAA doesn't drug test at all, does anyone believe he went from 1:53 (1:48) to 1:44 in a year legitimately?
simetimes doping accusations make sense but this is a little ridiculous. he’s had steady progression over the last two years and oh yea he transferred to an incredible d1 program which could also be why he’s gotten faster. a lot of the time ppl who accuse others of doping are projecting because they suck at the sport. someone has to be the best and just because they have more potential than u doesn’t mean they’re doping🤦♂️
This entire thread is absurd. The OP is off his meds.
So if he is finishing an 800 like Bolt at full steam and he is clean what would he be doing if he was doped? 1:42? And 11-flat for the last 100?
Why are you replying to my post with this? Why would you think I believe he’s clean? And what kind of moronic backwards logic are you driving at anyway?
I am not suggesting that you think he is clean. I am simply putting it - to anyone and not just you - that if we were to believe he is legit what kind of performance would he be showing were he to dope.
I looked at some articles about his high school basketball career back when he was winning the NCAA championship. As a 5'7" point guard, he led a 28-4 basketball team to the state semifinals in Pennsylvania his senior year. So, he finished his basketball season at the end of March. No indoor season. Outdoor season he started in April. His season ended probably in late May. So, now it should be clear why he didn't run any faster in high school.
Basketball is the perfect training for a college athlete to run 1:44. It doesn't matter what an athlete does, there's always an explanation that will avoid a more obvious conclusion. Doping is throughout the sport but it is never with any athlete that we might identify. Since it is a common practice at the top levels the exceptional will almost inevitably be doped.