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    Les

    Member since 05/01/2004.

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    1 week ago 06/23/2024 7:26pm EDT
    re: watching the 1500

    watching the 1500 wrote:

    At around the 400m mark of the 2nd heat of the 1500m semifinal, Craig Engels gives an arm-fully-extended shove to Hobbs Kessler, clearly breaking up Kessler's stride. I know Kessler seems to occasionally have difficulties finding his space while running in a crowd, but it didn't seem like he was cutting in or encroaching.

    In the parlance of LRC, discus.

    Don't know where you got the assumption that running is a non-contact sport. Runners are allowed to protect their space. Runners have pushed, elbowed, tripped, even punched other runners without being DQed. And that's only the Ingebrigtsens.

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  • whawha

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    1 week ago 06/23/2024 8:15pm EDT
    re: watching the 1500

    There was a lot of shoving going on early. So what

  • watching the 1500

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    1 week ago 06/23/2024 8:35pm EDT
    re: Les

    Les wrote:

    Don't know where you got the assumption that running is a non-contact sport. Runners are allowed to protect their space. Runners have pushed, elbowed, tripped, even punched other runners without being DQed. And that's only the Ingebrigtsens.

    No one is disputing that some contact is to be expected, but no one is saying that tripping should be allowed. There is a point where contact is excessive, and that is usually when one runner is impeded by another's actions. From the stumbling stride, it seems Kessler was clearly (but inconsequentially in this instance) impeded. If he had fallen, I'm sure there would have been a valid protest. Then again, if a frog had wings....

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    deezenemious

    Member since 11/15/2022.

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    1 week ago 06/23/2024 8:39pm EDT
    re: watching the 1500

    everybody arguing in this thread is soft

  • Doncic

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    1 week ago 06/23/2024 9:22pm EDT
    re: gggg

    Engels has been assessed a flagrant 1 foul. Kessler will get 2 shots and the ball in the finals tomorrow

  • Doncic nutdrainer

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    1 week ago 06/24/2024 8:42am EDT
    re: Doncic

    No nba fangirls allowed in here

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    Winthorpe53

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    1 week ago 06/24/2024 1:32pm EDT
    re: watching the 1500

    Threads like this demonstrate how most people on this website have never actually raced.

    It’s not a ‘shove’. It’s preventative to make sure runners don’t get tangled. If you run an aggressive line, you get bumped. No more, no less.

  • sweaty_bewbs

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    1 week ago 06/24/2024 1:35pm EDT
    re: dont be soft

    dont be soft wrote:

    Kessler should stop having the expectation that he will never be touched in a 1500m race.

    Does he have that expectation? Or did you make that up so you could pretend to be a bad ass?

  • OldeHead

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    1 week ago 06/24/2024 6:18pm EDT
    re: sweaty_bewbs

    Back in my racing days, we carried a switchblade in our jockey strap for moments like these.

    You kids are soft!

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    TheRealScotty

    Member since 05/10/2011.

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    1 week ago 06/24/2024 7:00pm EDT
    re: king999

    king999 wrote:

    king999 wrote:

    I also think any of this is in extremely bad taste. What's Sahlman's excuse for running over 45 seconds coming in? Ohhhh Yes! It's the coaching. Some of you are a joke on here.

    I also think in this particular race, Kessler broke off the line slower than desired , but was still okay and right about past the 400M mark, with solid position clearly on the outside of Engels...and not impeding him, gets slightly rubbed. then an outright arm push from Engels. That's the way I saw it, I also think bumped from behind? It's not on him to run faster there, the guy behind? Pass in middle of lane two.

    Disagree a bit here.

    Kessler was in fine position but at a point he drifts a bit inward. Engels is on the rail and has NOWHERE to go. He adjusts Kessler as I would have. Shortly after Kessler slides down again. This drew a stronger shove from Engels. More forceful than was necessary.

    In the end, the runner on the rail simply CANNOT have a guy slide down on him. Cannot allow that as there is no where for the rail runner to go.

    In the end, none of this mattered.

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