That's not correct these days particularly because of dating apps & social media, and a shortage of women in the younger age demographics.
Looks & height are number #1 with most women. Money & status becomes important as a women ages, and with the single-moms at all ages.
Look around when you're out & about: You see a lot good looking, tall, fit guys with below-average looking & overweight women.
Look at the Tinder experiment that Alex of PWF (dating coach) did with a clinically obese, very unattractive women. Within 24 hrs, she had over 450 likes & matches! 😲 An about half of the guys interested were average looking & not overweight.
It's insane out there in the dating market. 🥴 I'm in trenches & see this all the time. I have friends & acquaintances from my gym that are struggling with women also.
Look, the wheat waffles worshipping blackpill loser is back.
Sure, go ahead & make fun of me because all of that is true (other people mock me as well. Lol). And yes I do look at some of WW's content, especially the surveys & studies on the trends with women he presents - but I don't worship him.
I'm definitely "blackpill" because the ideology applies to me, and I experience it all the time. For crying out loud, I've been on dating app for the better part of 3 yrs now and average maybe one like every 2 or 3 months. 🤣. OTOH, I've probably liked over 100 women getting ZERO responses. Lol.
As far as "loser" is concerned - yes, in the context of my incapabilty of getting GF or even just casual dating (I could be the poster boy. 😉).
But I do have a decent income, a decent car (nothing fancy by any means), own a townhome, and I have a muscular, aesthetic physique (However, the blackpill says there's "no gym for your face" 🤣).
So, if you still say I'm loser in other aspects of my life (not wealthy, no status, no higher education, etc), then fine - I guess I'm a loser all the way around then. Lol.
Look, the wheat waffles worshipping blackpill loser is back.
Sure, go ahead & make fun of me because all of that is true (other people mock me as well. Lol). And yes I do look at some of WW's content, especially the surveys & studies on the trends with women he presents - but I don't worship him.
I'm definitely "blackpill" because the ideology applies to me, and I experience it all the time. For crying out loud, I've been on dating app for the better part of 3 yrs now and average maybe one like every 2 or 3 months. 🤣. OTOH, I've probably liked over 100 women getting ZERO responses. Lol.
As far as "loser" is concerned - yes, in the context of my incapabilty of getting GF or even just casual dating (I could be the poster boy. 😉).
But I do have a decent income, a decent car (nothing fancy by any means), own a townhome, and I have a muscular, aesthetic physique (However, the blackpill says there's "no gym for your face" 🤣).
So, if you still say I'm loser in other aspects of my life (not wealthy, no status, no higher education, etc), then fine - I guess I'm a loser all the way around then. Lol.
I will mock your backwards views on life that do not reflect reality. You are your own worst enemy.
Women judge men less on appearance than vice versa, which means that a good personality, humor, and having your life together can increase your appeal to a woman who gets to know you. This doesn't meant that women will never respond positively to a one-and-done overture; it simply means that you improve your chances by hanging around the same women regularly (provided you have a good personality and a stable life).
That's not correct these days particularly because of dating apps & social media, and a shortage of women in the younger age demographics.
Looks & height are number #1 with most women. Money & status becomes important as a women ages, and with the single-moms at all ages.
Look around when you're out & about: You see a lot good looking, tall, fit guys with below-average looking & overweight women.
Look at the Tinder experiment that Alex of PWF (dating coach) did with a clinically obese, very unattractive women. Within 24 hrs, she had over 450 likes & matches! 😲 An about half of the guys interested were average looking & not overweight.
It's insane out there in the dating market. 🥴 I'm in trenches & see this all the time. I have friends & acquaintances from my gym that are struggling with women also.
I agree that looks are important on social media, but this is why social media is not great for men trying to meet women. I also suspect that political differences get in the way, too. Young women are more likely to be liberal, and these days, many are unwilling to date conservative or Republican men (in the US).
Please post a link to the Alex of PWF Tinder experiment. I'm curious about what happened.
Lastly, some of the men who complain that women only like jerks are, themselves, either jerks or seriously lacking in some or more qualities that women find desirable. Again, I'm not saying that young men have nothing to complain about; it's just that I've seen some men who complain about not being able to get a date (who clearly resent women) and don't realize that their obvious issues are driving these women away.
I call Steve a lot of mean names, but he’s right on this one. I’m 35 with an ever increasing forehead due to my hairline receding. If I approach women it’s unwanted sexual harassment. If someone else did they’d get a date. Even I use the exact same words and tone. Anyways, I have another international flight to catch.
I know the feeling. I'm short (5'6" with my lifts. Lol), below-average-looking & some male pattern baldness developing - a triple-whammy in the dating market.
So, if I approached it would be unwanted sexual harassment as well.
And the only time a women is half-way friendly & somewhat pleasant with me is when I'm at a checkout of a store or checking in a gym (usually a mild smile & "have a nice day" & "have a good workout." Lol).
Saying hello to a woman is not sexual harassment. No HR department is going to discipline you for that. Read the room dude. If she's not friendly just let it go. And probably more importantly, if she is friendly it doesn't mean she wants to go out with you.
Yeah, finding someone can be difficult, but look around at all the couples you see. 99% of those guys are not tall, good looking or wealthy. If they can do it and you can't, maybe the problem isn't "sexual harassment", but you.
But I do have a decent income, a decent car (nothing fancy by any means)
Are cars seriously part of the dating game once you're out of high school? I understand if you're rolling up in a 100k car, that can turn some heads. Or if your backseat is full of empty Chick Fil A bags, and your headlights are held on with duct tape, that's kind of a red flag. Sure cars are somewhat of a proxy for wealth, but where's the line? I'm intrigued. Like what is a no-date car vs a will-date car?
I can’t wait till this thread disappears. Every time I see it, it reminds me of when I saw this older lady ( I’m old too) standing in the concourse at a hockey game, by herself , at intermission looking at her iPhone and I was by myself and I thought what the heck, strike up a conversation!
We were both bidding on game worn jerseys and I walked up to her and asked what she was bidding on and suddenly I guess it was her daughter walks up and pulls her away and the husband walked up and very kindly started discussing game worns with me and I suddenly felt like a creep!
I don’t know how walking up to someone you are interested in is creepy… I guess it is. How embarrassing ha
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I haven't done a Parkrun since Covid I don't think, but back when I used to run them, I often chatted to women and men I didn't know. I am a married woman, for the record. I had some very nice conversations with people of both genders. I live in the US where Parkrun isn't super popular, and the one I used to go to had a fairly small crowd, so there was a feeling of kinship with the other people who bothered to show up, whether they were slow or fast.
I don't think there were a lot of young single women there, but probably a few. I don't think Parkrun existed here back when I was single. I think Parkrun is actually a good place to make some new friends or acquaintances, and who knows what might happen.
Sure, go ahead & make fun of me because all of that is true (other people mock me as well. Lol). And yes I do look at some of WW's content, especially the surveys & studies on the trends with women he presents - but I don't worship him.
I'm definitely "blackpill" because the ideology applies to me, and I experience it all the time. For crying out loud, I've been on dating app for the better part of 3 yrs now and average maybe one like every 2 or 3 months. 🤣. OTOH, I've probably liked over 100 women getting ZERO responses. Lol.
As far as "loser" is concerned - yes, in the context of my incapabilty of getting GF or even just casual dating (I could be the poster boy. 😉).
But I do have a decent income, a decent car (nothing fancy by any means), own a townhome, and I have a muscular, aesthetic physique (However, the blackpill says there's "no gym for your face" 🤣).
So, if you still say I'm loser in other aspects of my life (not wealthy, no status, no higher education, etc), then fine - I guess I'm a loser all the way around then. Lol.
I will mock your backwards views on life that do not reflect reality. You are your own worst enemy.
As I said before, I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion of me. But if you're condemning me as a black piller (and other BP men) for struggling with women, and hesitant to cold approach women for fear of rejection, then you must be, or have been, successful with women and haven't experienced any of the negative side of things that I've experienced.
So, the question is are you happily married or in happy LTR? If not married or LTR, do you have a good dating life & have no trouble dating attractive, fit women?
Furthermore, how do rate your looks? What is your height? Your build, etc? Do women approach you or give you chosing signals or do you cold approach? Are you on datings, or have been on dating apps, etc? How about social media accounts?
I think the bottom line is you can't relate to me simply because you're not in my shoes.
Self-improvement coach Cole Hastings produced a video titled: "The Rise Of Gymcels: America's Loniest Men." The video has 47k views so far & really hit home with me. The interesting thing is I left a detail comment explaining my situation & received 65 likes! And no rebuttal other than one guy saying "it's not all looks & height" because he's tall & a former model who struggles with women. However he goes on to say that he's a hyper-autistic loner:
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That's not correct these days particularly because of dating apps & social media, and a shortage of women in the younger age demographics.
Looks & height are number #1 with most women. Money & status becomes important as a women ages, and with the single-moms at all ages.
Look around when you're out & about: You see a lot good looking, tall, fit guys with below-average looking & overweight women.
Look at the Tinder experiment that Alex of PWF (dating coach) did with a clinically obese, very unattractive women. Within 24 hrs, she had over 450 likes & matches! 😲 An about half of the guys interested were average looking & not overweight.
It's insane out there in the dating market. 🥴 I'm in trenches & see this all the time. I have friends & acquaintances from my gym that are struggling with women also.
I agree that looks are important on social media, but this is why social media is not great for men trying to meet women. I also suspect that political differences get in the way, too. Young women are more likely to be liberal, and these days, many are unwilling to date conservative or Republican men (in the US).
Please post a link to the Alex of PWF Tinder experiment. I'm curious about what happened.
Lastly, some of the men who complain that women only like jerks are, themselves, either jerks or seriously lacking in some or more qualities that women find desirable. Again, I'm not saying that young men have nothing to complain about; it's just that I've seen some men who complain about not being able to get a date (who clearly resent women) and don't realize that their obvious issues are driving these women away.
Wow...someone that actually agrees with me that looks are important on social media & dating apps.
Agree, social media & dating apps are not great for men trying to meet women, but it is the reality in this cyber world that we live in (it's only going to get worse as technology improves & we become more addicted to technology).
For example, look how everyone is integrated & connected to their phones & laptops almost 24/7. We hardly communicate to anyone in person anymore - we're all on our phones communicating to people via texting, emails, social media, etc. Lol.
Here's Alex's Tinder experiment with the unattractive, obese woman (474 likes in 24 hrs! 😲):
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I call Steve a lot of mean names, but he’s right on this one. I’m 35 with an ever increasing forehead due to my hairline receding. If I approach women it’s unwanted sexual harassment. If someone else did they’d get a date. Even I use the exact same words and tone. Anyways, I have another international flight to catch.
Can you give examples of the exact words you used?
Yeah, I would also like to hear exactly what these guys say that women take as harassment. I suspect it is either not innocuous or it goes on way too long.
Anyway, it was a waste of time. Most people were in groups so I couldn't talk to anyone and no one talked to me. Same as it ever was.
Another 10 miles in the bank though.
I am horrible at this, but you have to be a bit assertive if not aggressive (not in the bad way). Maybe approaching a group and asking "Hey I am new here and planning on running X pace, who would be the folks running that pace". Then you have to do from there.
Yes, you should cold approach women, but with some caveats. I'm not sure how parkrun works, but the best scenario is to gradually get to know someone (is parkrun a regular series?). Start by saying hi, then formally introducing yourself. Gauge the situation in terms of friendliness versus potential interest. Obviously, this requires repeat interactions with people.
Women judge men less on appearance than vice versa, which means that a good personality, humor, and having your life together can increase your appeal to a woman who gets to know you. This doesn't meant that women will never respond positively to a one-and-done overture; it simply means that you improve your chances by hanging around the same women regularly (provided you have a good personality and a stable life).
The personality lie. It's actually how you make them feel is the truth but they'll dress it up as personality. What place do nice guys finish again? Last with women.
Steve gets down-voted for this, but he is 100% right. Nice guys really do finish last with women. It took me a while to figure this out, but once I did my life got very entertaining. I'm past that sort of thing now...
I will mock your backwards views on life that do not reflect reality. You are your own worst enemy.
As I said before, I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion of me. But if you're condemning me as a black piller (and other BP men) for struggling with women, and hesitant to cold approach women for fear of rejection, then you must be, or have been, successful with women and haven't experienced any of the negative side of things that I've experienced.
So, the question is are you happily married or in happy LTR? If not married or LTR, do you have a good dating life & have no trouble dating attractive, fit women?
Furthermore, how do rate your looks? What is your height? Your build, etc? Do women approach you or give you chosing signals or do you cold approach? Are you on datings, or have been on dating apps, etc? How about social media accounts?
I think the bottom line is you can't relate to me simply because you're not in my shoes.
Self-improvement coach Cole Hastings produced a video titled: "The Rise Of Gymcels: America's Loniest Men." The video has 47k views so far & really hit home with me. The interesting thing is I left a detail comment explaining my situation & received 65 likes! And no rebuttal other than one guy saying "it's not all looks & height" because he's tall & a former model who struggles with women. However he goes on to say that he's a hyper-autistic loner:
I’m not condemning you for struggling with women. I’m condemning you, and you are condemning yourself, for following a backwards religion of blackpill ideology that does not reflect reality.
Okay...but you haven't answered one single question I asked you about your situation with women? So, how do I know that your not actually struggling with women & you just don't want to admit to it? And your way of coping is to criticize me? 🤔
Remember, I got 65 likes from my comment on the gymcel video. Plus there's over hundreds of comments from other guys on that video experiencing the same issues that I am. So, it's not just me being misled by blackpill ideology. 😉
But I do have a decent income, a decent car (nothing fancy by any means)
Are cars seriously part of the dating game once you're out of high school? I understand if you're rolling up in a 100k car, that can turn some heads. Or if your backseat is full of empty Chick Fil A bags, and your headlights are held on with duct tape, that's kind of a red flag. Sure cars are somewhat of a proxy for wealth, but where's the line? I'm intrigued. Like what is a no-date car vs a will-date car?
Well, according to dating coach Rich Cooper ("The Unplugged Alpha"), his no BS approach to getting attractive women is to become a "high-value man" - obtain wealth & status, drive nice cars, get jacked, learn a fighting art, etc. Who would have thought. Lol.
Flirting if you're attractive. Harassment if you're not attractive. Same behavior though. The world is a strange place.
No you dolt. If she shows receptivity then it's flirting. If she's signalling "no", then back the F off - if you don't then you're a creepy douche if outside work. If it's at work then you're harassing her. Why can't some dudes get that? Learn to read the situation.
I had banged like 35 women by the time I met my wife (then GF) at age 32... most of them one-night stands or short term flings. (I'm not posting under my real handle name because my wife comes on here sometimes and knows my handle. She thinks my number is only 6.)
Anyways, I seriously cringe when dudes talk about how "you can't talk to women without being accused of something." Believe me, you can... if you do it right.