Pete Bol's phone had doping instructions

Let's be honest, every good coach knows when one of his athletes is doping.

Deng with whereabouts failures too...

I gotta admit that article and this thread is one of the more meaningful I've ever read on LetsRun. This makes me INSTANTLY want to reevaluate so many things - Bol, Lagat, ec.

His lawyer Greene is right, Bol has been 'defamed' by all of this. If I was Bol, I'd be irate that Greene somehow caused this to go public as I and many others who have read this are now assuming Bol was dirty. Could it have been a coincidence? Sure. But I"m just telling you my reaction without a filter.

And then he has the same agent at Bernard Lagat, who got off for the same thing?

Initially, this whole thing made me think, "Wow. Wada doesn't really have the sciencce down. Thank God Bol had the same agent as Lagat who knows this stuff is unrealiable."

Now my conclusion is almost the opposite.

Who knows, maybe more info will come out and I'll change again.

It sounds so amateurish. Like listening to people doing a drug deal on facebook.

Hey remember everyone Whatsapp is private, nobody is spying on you. Honest!

He had the research line after being exonerated too. So it’s just a lie, and an unnecessary one at that, which in the court of public opinion is very bad.

I wish WADA was as committed to prosecuting those Chinese swimmers.

A defence to defamation is fact. What Bol was found to have on his phone is fact. The reasonable inference from that fact is why would an athlete who doesn't dope or intend to have advice about how to dope have information about a doping method on his phone? It is even more dubious when we see that he failed a drug test and only got off being convicted of a violation because of doubts about the 'B' sample. It doesn't look good.

Why would anyone be reading about how to beat doping tests and SAVING it on their phone unless they were doping? A clean athlete wouldn't/shouldn't even be interested in such stuff. He was doping.

That is a joke, duh. But on this website about 50% of the readers might not get it.

Yes, it is now proven that Bol is a liar.

It's also proven that he was interested in how to dope with Epo without getting caught.

And we know that he had a positive A sample and an inclusive B sample according to Wada.

IMHO he shouldn't worry about his reputation; he should be thrilled that he narrowly escaped a ban.

@Rojo: just ignore his lawyer's babbling...

This sport never stops giving. Love it. Please don't ever change.

There could well be many journalists, bloggers, fans, coaches (including myself in 3 of these categories) who might validly check out this sort of info because we are curious about this aspect of the sport. Indeed I've done just this sort of thing and i know others who have done so

However I find it strange that in his list of things that Bol categorically denies ie possessing and administering, he chooses to include the verb research; almost as if he is including research as an integral part of the process leading to the administering of PED. As the research can just be an end in itself, I find it suspicious he used the words he chose in his denial.

I know that two of Rinaldi’s runners just got spanked by James Preston in Germany who broke the world’s longest standing national record. 1.44.04 erasing the GOAT Peter Snell from the record books

Your point being? On this topic? Oh! Nothing! Why don't you stay on-topic?

On topic ok Rinaldi athletes are cheating Khunts. On topic enough?

How about you state your first and last name when addressing Justin, you spineless turd?

This might actually be Peter Bol.

Let’s be clear, the B sample was tested at a date selected by the testing agency, not us. They send you a letter advising of when the B sample will be tested and you can send a representive there to ensure it’s opened correctly if you so choose. It was about 4-5 weeks after the A sample was tested. I truely hope that our testing system isn’t that bad that 4 weeks makes a massive difference. I’m not sure how they have been retesting samples from 2012 if this is the case…but I’m not an expert.

Secondly, the wording of the statement was that the screenshot which contatined information about a letter Conte wrote in the mid 2000’s. Not that the screenshot was of the letter or that he actually read that letter.

Pete ran 1:44.29 and 3:34.54 (PB) last year, so it unfair to say his results have dropped off. He had a poor WC, but that was due to other factors and not reflective of the shape he was in. I take the blame as it was me who pushed him to run these champs when he didn’t;t really want to.

I wished they published so of the questions they asked me during my 4hr interview, as most of them were laughable. They were telling me that athletes take EPO in the off-season so they don’t have to train! Again, I’m no expert, but I find that hard to believe.

Everyone is entitled to their own option, but I still have no doubt in my mind of his innocence and if you ever spent any time at all with him, you’d believe the same.

JR

Has anyone pointed out that the article in question, as well as the letter are freely accessible and were published/reported on by media outlets in 2008?

theguardian.com

The letter which exposed Chambers' shocking regime

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/michaelphillips

Victor Conte, the founder of Balco, has revealed what sprinter Dwain Chambers took and how drug testers can be beaten

Link:www.theguardian.com/sport/2008/may/16/...

dailymail.co.uk

ATHLETICS: Victor Conte's letter to Dwain Chambers

https://www.facebook.com/DailyMailSport

Dear Dwain, Per your request, this letter is to confirm I am willing to assist you in providing UK Sport and others with information that will help them to improve the effectiveness of their anti-doping programs. The specific...

Link:www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1020...

Interestingly, the context of the letter came after Victor Conte was jailed for "conspiracy to distribute steroids and money laundering", and that he was writing to provide "UK Sport and others with information that will help them to improve the effectiveness of their anti-doping programs."

The letter concludes with Conte's anti-doping recommendations:

It isn't exactly the Anarchist Cookbook...