A few comments that tell me that you know very little about the sport.
1. Mentioning Ostrander or Quigley means you haven’t paid attention over the last decade.
2. Believing that Coburn or Freirichs have a career on the roads is equivalent to telling me Michael Jordan had a chance in the MLB.
Re: 2. Coburn no, so we agree. Would be 15:15-15:30 for 5K on the roads and relatively slower at the longer distances, and progressing as you go up.
Frerichs, maybe. She's a little younger and has some pretty good credentials at XC (4th at NCAAs one year) and 14:50 PB for the 5000. She could make some national teams for XC and keep it going on the roads for a few more years, e.g., major road races and USATF road circuit. Doubtful that she'd do it, but the potential is there.
Allie O isn't even one of the 10 fastest steeplers in the US this year. Jennings has the best time followed by Boreman's impressive performance in LA. After that there is four women with in 2 seconds of each other: Angelina Ellis, Logan Jolly, Lexy Halliday, and Val Constien.
Gear hasn't run a steeple yet, Wayment and Mitchell are a couple places past Constien in the performance list. How about we try and reward one of the 5 fastest women so far this year, but particularly Jennings or Boreman rather than someone who hasn't shown they are likely to place in the top 5 at the trials even with the injuries we've already seen.
The steeplechase water pit is likely a crude design that should be studied toward safety modifications. On Saturday a Dutch girl in her season opener landed awkwardly on the very first water jump and was so badly injured she couldn't get out of there. She was in obvious pain and grasping at her right ankle. Fortunately it was a small field. On the next lap the cameras caught two attendants carrying the injured athlete away just seconds before the leader reached the water pit.
Allie O isn't even one of the 10 fastest steeplers in the US this year. Jennings has the best time followed by Boreman's impressive performance in LA. After that there is four women with in 2 seconds of each other: Angelina Ellis, Logan Jolly, Lexy Halliday, and Val Constien.
You are making out the relatively small differences in early season times to be more important than they are. For instance, Boreman and Jolly both jumped 13 seconds from their first to second races this season. Halladay is trending backwards (9:26 to 9:27 to 9:39) and maybe Hyde (9:28 to 9:31). People will have different trajectories (improvement, stable, fade, overcooked. . .) depending on how much they have raced on the track this season and not necessarily just in the steeplechase.
The difference between current #3 Boreman and current #12 Allie O is only 7 seconds. Considering Allie O is on a good trajectory (9:37 to 9:32) and I expect more improvement from her than the others (not sharp/peaked on the track starting season later than the college runners or those who ran indoor, much less haven't been on the track in years; has a decent base to build from—see World Cross; and looks to be healthy for the first time ever), I fully expect her to be mixing it up with those women in the finals at trials. Who knows how it will turn out? It's unlikely to be the same order as the yearly performance list. That's why they run the race.
If you are only talking about who deserves to take a possibly open spot at Pre, sure pick someone based on season's best. That's fair.
Ostrander has a chance! Slim, but far more realistic than Quigley, who is nothing more than a fitness influencer/model masquerading as a pro athlete and faking clout by calling herself a national champ (one time in the indoor mile) and WR holder (in the 4x1500).
Yes she was referred to as a World record holder on a panel the other week. Very cringe
Boreman is more than 10 seconds faster than Allie O on the season. I didn't see the race in LA but she finished in front of Jeruto. I did watch the Trackfest steeple though and I'd rather see Gracie Hyde get a shot if she can squeeze it into winning a NCAA D2 title or two. She raced to win at Trackfest.
Ostrander has a chance! Slim, but far more realistic than Quigley, who is nothing more than a fitness influencer/model masquerading as a pro athlete and faking clout by calling herself a national champ (one time in the indoor mile) and WR holder (in the 4x1500).
Yes she was referred to as a World record holder on a panel the other week. Very cringe
Ill take her credentials. My guess is you have won "outdoor" nationals? And far more clout? What do you get by hating on her? I just dont get it. She did what she could and thats better than 99.99999% of us.
The steeplechase water pit is likely a crude design that should be studied toward safety modifications. On Saturday a Dutch girl in her season opener landed awkwardly on the very first water jump and was so badly injured she couldn't get out of there. She was in obvious pain and grasping at her right ankle. Fortunately it was a small field. On the next lap the cameras caught two attendants carrying the injured athlete away just seconds before the leader reached the water pit.
11 degrees is greater than normal ankle ROM. Its literally designed to injure people at ankle or knee. Maybe some historian can tell me why they wanted to land in water and then said "hey why don't we angle the landing backwards and make it really random". Its dumb. Jump over another barrier or at least flatten the water landing if you insist they run in wet shoes.