Half of the people on this thread must be trolling.
Jakob clearly has the better pedigree. He is younger, has better personal bests in all events >800m, has more global outdoor medals in the 1500m (1G2S in the 1500m vs 1G1B), has a better head-to-head record in the 1500m, and is also dominant in his second event on the global stage whereas Kerr is about 1.5 seconds away from a top 800m.
Kerr beat Jakob in the most recent global final in the 1500m and has since run some very impressive races which show his win is not just a fluke.
It will be a good race to watch. If Kerr wins again and puts up some big times, it might change the conversation in years to come.
Just to be clear: Jakob ingebrigtsen and Josh Kerr are 12 and 2 in the 1500 and 1 and 0 in the 5k. Ingebrigtsen’s 800 off of 120 mile weeks is 1:46.44; just over a second slower than Kerr’s. Ingebrigtsen’s 1500 is 3:27.14; nearly 2 seconds faster than Kerr’s. JAKOB’S MILE IS 5.1 SECONDS FASTER THAN JOSH’S. HIS 3k IS 7 SECONDS FASTER THAN JAKE’S. JOSH TOOK THE INDOOR WORLD RECORD IN THE 2 MILE AND WAS WITH GRANT FISCHER UNTIL 300 TO GO; JAKOB HAS RUN 6 SECONDS FASTER SOLO. JAKOB HAS THE NUMBER 19 ALL TIME 5k IN 12:48.45; KERR IS 1088 ALL TIME. Jakob can dictate whether the Olympic 1500 is fast, if someone else doesn’t take it out he will, and no one in the world can run a faster 1500m than him. Jakob Ingebrigtsen is rightfully insulted by this comparison, and is simply defending himself with his comments about Kerr.
Sure there isn't that much to compare. But to be insulted anytime anyone mentions the two in the same sentence is silly. He isn't some baby who needs to be coddled, he needs to start getting a bit more secure.
Just to be clear: Jakob ingebrigtsen and Josh Kerr are 12 and 2 in the 1500 and 1 and 0 in the 5k. Ingebrigtsen’s 800 off of 120 mile weeks is 1:46.44; just over a second slower than Kerr’s. Ingebrigtsen’s 1500 is 3:27.14; nearly 2 seconds faster than Kerr’s. JAKOB’S MILE IS 5.1 SECONDS FASTER THAN JOSH’S. HIS 3k IS 7 SECONDS FASTER THAN JAKE’S. JOSH TOOK THE INDOOR WORLD RECORD IN THE 2 MILE AND WAS WITH GRANT FISCHER UNTIL 300 TO GO; JAKOB HAS RUN 6 SECONDS FASTER SOLO. JAKOB HAS THE NUMBER 19 ALL TIME 5k IN 12:48.45; KERR IS 1088 ALL TIME. Jakob can dictate whether the Olympic 1500 is fast, if someone else doesn’t take it out he will, and no one in the world can run a faster 1500m than him. Jakob Ingebrigtsen is rightfully insulted by this comparison, and is simply defending himself with his comments about Kerr.
Yeah, all those are interesting points. But they held a contest to see who was the best 1500m runner in the world last year. Josh Kerr won.
And the year before that it was Jake Weightman.
And earlier that year it was Sam Tefera (indoors).
Maybe if Jakob works hard he can become the best 1500m runner in the world in 2024.
Kerr has one more WC 1500 gold than Jakob. But the main thing he gets from that win is that he beat Jakob in a global championship final.
Ingebrigtsen has beaten Kerr three times in a global Championship final (four times if you include juniors). What exactly is your point, Dumb?
Kerr has beaten him in their last meeting to win the WC in Jakob's main event, which he has never won. That puts Kerr above Ingebrigtsen by that measure of achievement. But keep arguing how losing is still better.
Half of the people on this thread must be trolling.
Jakob clearly has the better pedigree. He is younger, has better personal bests in all events >800m, has more global outdoor medals in the 1500m (1G2S in the 1500m vs 1G1B), has a better head-to-head record in the 1500m, and is also dominant in his second event on the global stage whereas Kerr is about 1.5 seconds away from a top 800m.
Kerr beat Jakob in the most recent global final in the 1500m and has since run some very impressive races which show his win is not just a fluke.
It will be a good race to watch. If Kerr wins again and puts up some big times, it might change the conversation in years to come.
It may change the conversation but not the fact that Kerr has the WC gold medal and Jakob the silver in Jakob's main event. No amount of discussion about their relative merits as runners alters that.
Ingebrigtsen has beaten Kerr three times in a global Championship final (four times if you include juniors). What exactly is your point, Dumb?
Kerr has beaten him in their last meeting to win the WC in Jakob's main event, which he has never won. That puts Kerr above Ingebrigtsen by that measure of achievement. But keep arguing how losing is still better.
..by that measure of achievement (what a laughable attempt of defense).
Ingebrigtsen: 23 years old, Kerr: 26 years old 1500m performances: 1st I 3:27.14 - K 3:29.05 5th I 3:28.72 - K 3:30.51 10th I 3:29.47 - K 3:32.28 20th I 3:31.72 - K 3:35.99 1500m global champs: 2016 WU20 I 9 - K 10 2019 WC I 4 - K 6 2021 OG I 1 - K 3 2022 WC I 2 - K 5 2023 WC I 2 - K 1
Looking just at the 1500m results, Ingebrigtsen is clearly ahead of Kerr, it's not close. Looking at all their results, Ingebrigtsen already is an all-time great, Kerr not.
Currently? Hard to say when Ingebrigtsen hasn't raced since September and reportadly has had injury problems. Also, Kerr has had fantastic results this year. But we don't have just these two and the 1500m in Paris promises to become one of the great ones in history.
Half of the people on this thread must be trolling.
Jakob clearly has the better pedigree. He is younger, has better personal bests in all events >800m, has more global outdoor medals in the 1500m (1G2S in the 1500m vs 1G1B), has a better head-to-head record in the 1500m, and is also dominant in his second event on the global stage whereas Kerr is about 1.5 seconds away from a top 800m.
Kerr beat Jakob in the most recent global final in the 1500m and has since run some very impressive races which show his win is not just a fluke.
It will be a good race to watch. If Kerr wins again and puts up some big times, it might change the conversation in years to come.
It may change the conversation but not the fact that Kerr has the WC gold medal and Jakob the silver in Jakob's main event. No amount of discussion about their relative merits as runners alters that.
I think anybody reading such threads knows that Kerr has beaten Ingebrigtsen last year at the world champs over 1500m. How many times do you want to state it? What's your main message you want to tell?
Kerr is currently better? Possible. What do you know about Ingebrigtsen's current form? How good is Kerr? I strongly believe we will see clearly sub 3:28 from him in the summer (baring injury).
Yeah, all those are interesting points. But they held a contest to see who was the best 1500m runner in the world last year. Josh Kerr won.
And the year before that it was Jake Weightman.
And earlier that year it was Sam Tefera (indoors).
Maybe if Jakob works hard he can become the best 1500m runner in the world in 2024.
Do you really believe this: “They (WA I think you mean) held a contest to see who was the best 1500m runner in the world last year”..?
So why does WA have a ranking for the year 2023 (also post the WC) that says that the World champion only is ranked third (behind Jakob, #1, and Nuguse, #2) in the 1500m??