We have some incredibly uneducated people in this forum. You do not have to agree with the Confederate cause to understand that they did, in fact, have way more loyalty to state than to the United States. Stop showing how little you know by downvoting these statements.
Also, there were MANY racists in both the north and south. It was not just confined to the south. Their livelihood was based upon cotton and farming so the relied on slaves. Also, a pretty small amount of the population could actually afford slaves.
While we are talking about educating some of you, there was also money made off of slaves in Africa. These are the people that sold the slaves to the white people.
Slavery was an institution worldwide for most of the existence of humans. It does not make this horrid institution right but don't be a fool enough to believe it started in the US. In fact, go to the continent of Africa now and you will find slavery. Mauritania outlawed slavery in 1981 but it is still practiced there.
I don't know you, so I will not say that you are incredibly uneducated. I will just say misinformed with some slanted prejudiced and wrong information.
Yes, racist people are everywhere, north, south, east and west. The entire world until the industrial revolution were dependent on farming, however having slave labor to do it was mostly a Portuguese, Spanish, French and English thing in the western hemisphere with black African slaves. Throughout the history of mankind, slave labor was not how farming developed for the masses.
The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade WAS NOT conceived by Africans. Africans did not conceive it, develop it, build ships or forts, nor did they profit prodigiously from it. The Trans-Atlantic Slave trade did not start with a transaction. The Portuguese stole Africans that they captured.
Also slavery in Sub Sahara Africa was a completely different than chattel slavery in the Americas. In Africa, you were a slave due to unpaid debts or a prisoner of war. Your term of servitude was not passed on to your children and your children's children and it certainly wasn't based on color. You had rights in many circumstances.
How did the largest forced migration in human history start?
In 1441, Portuguese Prince Henry "the navigator" dispatched two knights, Nuno Tristao and Antao Goncalves to explore western Africa on separate ships. Goncalves was filling his boat with seal pelts on the coast and ran across a camel driver. When Tristao meet up with Goncalves, Tristao had a Moor servant and asked him to translate and ask where gold was. The camel driver pointed them in the direction of a nearby fishing camp. Goncalves promptly kidnapped 10 Africans. The next day he paraded them naked to lure out the villagers in an attempt to capture more. Tristao and Goncalves were ambushed by over 100 warriors and high tailed it back to their ships. Goncalves went back to Portugal and Tristao kept going south, but later returned to Portugal. He saw that Goncalves had profited highly. His big profits weren't from selling the seal pelts, it was from selling the 10 stolen Africans. Tristao on his 2nd voyage, 18 months later to Africa he captured more Africans, including a Chief. He then bartered the Chief for 10 more Africans and exchanged the Chief's release. He sold the Africans back in Portugal. At this point Prince Henry figured this was a profitable business and sent Tristao and other expeditions to Africa to capture more Africans to sell. Tristao was killed by Mandinka warriors in 1446 in the Gambia trying to steal humans.
Prince Henry set up Casa da Guine' and for the next 50 years imported goods from Africa to Portugal, with the most profitable being the 1,000 slaves a year. The Portuguese justified the stealing and enslavement of Africans by saying they were converting them to Christianity. The Trans Atlantic Slave trade started when the Spanish and Portuguese started colonizing the western hemisphere and need labor for the crops. They had killed the natives in Central and South America and Caribbean Islands from war and infection, so they didn't make for good slaves.
Back to that repeated lie that it started by Africans selling Africans is complete BS nonsense. If some hadn't sold their indentured servants and POWs, they would have been enslaved themselves, as was the Queen of Dahomey enslaved by the Portuguese.
If it was just a transaction, then explain why Europeans never left Africa and colonized Sub Saharan Africa? King Leopold II enslaved Africans in Africa!, the Congo and most Sub Saharan African nations didn't gain their independence from their evil colonizers until the 1960's and 1970's, in the borders that were mostly drawn up in the Berlin Conference.
Stop saying and implying that African slaves and their decedents are slaves by their own doing, they weren't. Also, not one single slave and black person since has ever done anything that deserves 4 centuries of enslavement and subsequent 2nd class treatment after emancipation.
Change the name of Washington DC to Powhatan (the native tribe that was displaced.) And have the congressmen show up in feathers. That will teach them.
This is actually connected to running. William Penn treated native americans with respect, however, after his death his sons tricked the Lenape native americans with the infamous “walking purchase.” Where they hired three to men to run an ultra and steal the native land. I think one of them ran like 70 miles. This ultimately pushed the Lenape west out of PA.
William Penn would of never let that ultra happen. Instead of tearing down a statue what Pennsylvania should do is give back the land stolen to the current Lenape tribes in Oklahoma, Wisconsin, and Ontario, Canada.
We have some incredibly uneducated people in this forum. You do not have to agree with the Confederate cause to understand that they did, in fact, have way more loyalty to state than to the United States. Stop showing how little you know by downvoting these statements.
Also, there were MANY racists in both the north and south. It was not just confined to the south. Their livelihood was based upon cotton and farming so the relied on slaves. Also, a pretty small amount of the population could actually afford slaves.
While we are talking about educating some of you, there was also money made off of slaves in Africa. These are the people that sold the slaves to the white people.
Slavery was an institution worldwide for most of the existence of humans. It does not make this horrid institution right but don't be a fool enough to believe it started in the US. In fact, go to the continent of Africa now and you will find slavery. Mauritania outlawed slavery in 1981 but it is still practiced there.
I don't know you, so I will not say that you are incredibly uneducated. I will just say misinformed with some slanted prejudiced and wrong information.
Yes, racist people are everywhere, north, south, east and west. The entire world until the industrial revolution were dependent on farming, however having slave labor to do it was mostly a Portuguese, Spanish, French and English thing in the western hemisphere with black African slaves. Throughout the history of mankind, slave labor was not how farming developed for the masses.
The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade WAS NOT conceived by Africans. Africans did not conceive it, develop it, build ships or forts, nor did they profit prodigiously from it. The Trans-Atlantic Slave trade did not start with a transaction. The Portuguese stole Africans that they captured.
Also slavery in Sub Sahara Africa was a completely different than chattel slavery in the Americas. In Africa, you were a slave due to unpaid debts or a prisoner of war. Your term of servitude was not passed on to your children and your children's children and it certainly wasn't based on color. You had rights in many circumstances.
How did the largest forced migration in human history start?
In 1441, Portuguese Prince Henry "the navigator" dispatched two knights, Nuno Tristao and Antao Goncalves to explore western Africa on separate ships. Goncalves was filling his boat with seal pelts on the coast and ran across a camel driver. When Tristao meet up with Goncalves, Tristao had a Moor servant and asked him to translate and ask where gold was. The camel driver pointed them in the direction of a nearby fishing camp. Goncalves promptly kidnapped 10 Africans. The next day he paraded them naked to lure out the villagers in an attempt to capture more. Tristao and Goncalves were ambushed by over 100 warriors and high tailed it back to their ships. Goncalves went back to Portugal and Tristao kept going south, but later returned to Portugal. He saw that Goncalves had profited highly. His big profits weren't from selling the seal pelts, it was from selling the 10 stolen Africans. Tristao on his 2nd voyage, 18 months later to Africa he captured more Africans, including a Chief. He then bartered the Chief for 10 more Africans and exchanged the Chief's release. He sold the Africans back in Portugal. At this point Prince Henry figured this was a profitable business and sent Tristao and other expeditions to Africa to capture more Africans to sell. Tristao was killed by Mandinka warriors in 1446 in the Gambia trying to steal humans.
Prince Henry set up Casa da Guine' and for the next 50 years imported goods from Africa to Portugal, with the most profitable being the 1,000 slaves a year. The Portuguese justified the stealing and enslavement of Africans by saying they were converting them to Christianity. The Trans Atlantic Slave trade started when the Spanish and Portuguese started colonizing the western hemisphere and need labor for the crops. They had killed the natives in Central and South America and Caribbean Islands from war and infection, so they didn't make for good slaves.
Back to that repeated lie that it started by Africans selling Africans is complete BS nonsense. If some hadn't sold their indentured servants and POWs, they would have been enslaved themselves, as was the Queen of Dahomey enslaved by the Portuguese.
If it was just a transaction, then explain why Europeans never left Africa and colonized Sub Saharan Africa? King Leopold II enslaved Africans in Africa!, the Congo and most Sub Saharan African nations didn't gain their independence from their evil colonizers until the 1960's and 1970's, in the borders that were mostly drawn up in the Berlin Conference.
Stop saying and implying that African slaves and their decedents are slaves by their own doing, they weren't. Also, not one single slave and black person since has ever done anything that deserves 4 centuries of enslavement and subsequent 2nd class treatment after emancipation.
Slavery existed in Africa before Europe existed let alone America and it exists in Africa TODAY.
Dahomey was a slave nation. Their entire livelihood was selling slaves.
So much so that the government of the country it turned into apologized for their role in American slavery.
I don't know you, so I will not say that you are incredibly uneducated. I will just say misinformed with some slanted prejudiced and wrong information.
Yes, racist people are everywhere, north, south, east and west. The entire world until the industrial revolution were dependent on farming, however having slave labor to do it was mostly a Portuguese, Spanish, French and English thing in the western hemisphere with black African slaves. Throughout the history of mankind, slave labor was not how farming developed for the masses.
The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade WAS NOT conceived by Africans. Africans did not conceive it, develop it, build ships or forts, nor did they profit prodigiously from it. The Trans-Atlantic Slave trade did not start with a transaction. The Portuguese stole Africans that they captured.
Also slavery in Sub Sahara Africa was a completely different than chattel slavery in the Americas. In Africa, you were a slave due to unpaid debts or a prisoner of war. Your term of servitude was not passed on to your children and your children's children and it certainly wasn't based on color. You had rights in many circumstances.
How did the largest forced migration in human history start?
In 1441, Portuguese Prince Henry "the navigator" dispatched two knights, Nuno Tristao and Antao Goncalves to explore western Africa on separate ships. Goncalves was filling his boat with seal pelts on the coast and ran across a camel driver. When Tristao meet up with Goncalves, Tristao had a Moor servant and asked him to translate and ask where gold was. The camel driver pointed them in the direction of a nearby fishing camp. Goncalves promptly kidnapped 10 Africans. The next day he paraded them naked to lure out the villagers in an attempt to capture more. Tristao and Goncalves were ambushed by over 100 warriors and high tailed it back to their ships. Goncalves went back to Portugal and Tristao kept going south, but later returned to Portugal. He saw that Goncalves had profited highly. His big profits weren't from selling the seal pelts, it was from selling the 10 stolen Africans. Tristao on his 2nd voyage, 18 months later to Africa he captured more Africans, including a Chief. He then bartered the Chief for 10 more Africans and exchanged the Chief's release. He sold the Africans back in Portugal. At this point Prince Henry figured this was a profitable business and sent Tristao and other expeditions to Africa to capture more Africans to sell. Tristao was killed by Mandinka warriors in 1446 in the Gambia trying to steal humans.
Prince Henry set up Casa da Guine' and for the next 50 years imported goods from Africa to Portugal, with the most profitable being the 1,000 slaves a year. The Portuguese justified the stealing and enslavement of Africans by saying they were converting them to Christianity. The Trans Atlantic Slave trade started when the Spanish and Portuguese started colonizing the western hemisphere and need labor for the crops. They had killed the natives in Central and South America and Caribbean Islands from war and infection, so they didn't make for good slaves.
Back to that repeated lie that it started by Africans selling Africans is complete BS nonsense. If some hadn't sold their indentured servants and POWs, they would have been enslaved themselves, as was the Queen of Dahomey enslaved by the Portuguese.
If it was just a transaction, then explain why Europeans never left Africa and colonized Sub Saharan Africa? King Leopold II enslaved Africans in Africa!, the Congo and most Sub Saharan African nations didn't gain their independence from their evil colonizers until the 1960's and 1970's, in the borders that were mostly drawn up in the Berlin Conference.
Stop saying and implying that African slaves and their decedents are slaves by their own doing, they weren't. Also, not one single slave and black person since has ever done anything that deserves 4 centuries of enslavement and subsequent 2nd class treatment after emancipation.
Slavery existed in Africa before Europe existed let alone America and it exists in Africa TODAY.
Dahomey was a slave nation. Their entire livelihood was selling slaves.
So much so that the government of the country it turned into apologized for their role in American slavery.
Right on cue....the lying a** racist in the room...ready to tell more lies about black people.
Chattel race based slavery, where your children's children's children's were slaves and you had zero rights, didn't exist in Sub Saharan Africa. That was in the western hemisphere by Europeans.
As for the Dahomey (present day Benin), was one of hundreds of Tribal nations. Did they fight other nations and capture people to sell to Europeans....yes they did. Was it the wisest thing to do...of course not. However, the African tribal nations sold their indentured servants and prisoners of war. (War did take place in Sub Saharan Africa long before there was any white people on Earth). If they had not sell their indentured servants, the Europeans would have just taken them by force, which is exactly what they did millions of times. You seem to think that African slaves were only taken from the Dahomey, they were taken throughout the entire west coast of Africa.
Portugal was a slave nation and made most of their money from it.
Back to Benin, they didn't gain their independence from France until 1960! So much for them just conducting transactions with Europeans. The evil devils never left, colonized, raped, stole the people, stole the resources and drew up the borders of the nation.
I notice no comment about colonization or King Leopold II, arguably the most evil white racist ever. No comment about him chopping of limbs of 100K kids and enslaving millions in the Congo. White MFs enslaved Africans in Africa. So I guess the folks of the Congo started and conceived that as well.
You can not change history, no matter how much you lie.
The National Park Service announced that William Penn's statue will remain in Philadelphia's Welcome Park after a removal announcement sparked outrage.
Right on cue....the lying a** racist in the room...ready to tell more lies about black people.
Chattel race based slavery, where your children's children's children's were slaves and you had zero rights, didn't exist in Sub Saharan Africa. That was in the western hemisphere by Europeans.
As for the Dahomey (present day Benin), was one of hundreds of Tribal nations. Did they fight other nations and capture people to sell to Europeans....yes they did. Was it the wisest thing to do...of course not. However, the African tribal nations sold their indentured servants and prisoners of war. (War did take place in Sub Saharan Africa long before there was any white people on Earth). If they had not sell their indentured servants, the Europeans would have just taken them by force, which is exactly what they did millions of times. You seem to think that African slaves were only taken from the Dahomey, they were taken throughout the entire west coast of Africa.
Portugal was a slave nation and made most of their money from it.
Back to Benin, they didn't gain their independence from France until 1960! So much for them just conducting transactions with Europeans. The evil devils never left, colonized, raped, stole the people, stole the resources and drew up the borders of the nation.
I notice no comment about colonization or King Leopold II, arguably the most evil white racist ever. No comment about him chopping of limbs of 100K kids and enslaving millions in the Congo. White MFs enslaved Africans in Africa. So I guess the folks of the Congo started and conceived that as well.
You can not change history, no matter how much you lie.
I'm not sure your "yea but we practice the good kind of slavery" argument is as persuasive as you think it is.
If you're so superior to evil whitey why didn't you just stop them from taking your people by force?
People have been warring and colonizing other people forever.
You bizarrely take pride in the fact that no white people existed when your people were already warring and killing each other in Africa.
Perhaps if your ancestors weren't such warmongering *ssholes there wouldn't have been a need for all those tribes to flee Africa and they never would have evolved into all the other races you loathe so much in the first place.
If you want to play the historical gotchya game this is still all your own ancestor's fault.
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