Youvare stuck in the past. You will be talking about Tuohy's HS achievement forever. Valby is healthy and she the fastest woman in history while Tuohy is breaking down. You don't seem to be able to grasp what the fastest in history means. You thought that woukd be Tuohy while she is not even the best amongst her peers. Valby has surpassed her in the distances and Wiley has done it in the mid distances.
I suspect if you take 100 random competitive runners, a subtantial number of them would benefit from Valby-style training. That is, 3ish hard days of running and 3ish hard cross training days.
I think a major part of the cross training story is that while cross training you can do max efforts easier. Not many of us can run many workouts at 10/10. Few of us even try. But on a bike or a rower or arc or whatever...you can spend a lot more time at max heart rates. Which, I think, can make us much faster runners.
I'd challenge all of you to throw in a cross training workout that involves 10/10ths effort in intense 2 minute-ish bursts. I think most of you would benefit greatly, esp at the cost of a junk run.
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I have no idea- anyone have any theories? Why does she get injured so much more than many others? I know can be part of the sport but she seems to be more injury prone than most
Bone density is my guess
Density means mass/volume. Lack of bone density leads to stress fractures when running a lot. Is this low bone density also what makes some of these runners go faster or is it negligible? For example is one skeletal frame a few pounds lighter than another due to low bone density? If yes, it seems to be a double edged sword. It helps them run faster by being lighter (bones aren't muscle so they don't help your speed), but they may break if you train too much.
Valby got through the past 2 seasons, XC and outdoor, healthier than anyone winning nationals both times.Tuohy didn't get through either of the last 2 seasons healthy by her own admission. This isn't controversial. She need to get checked out for some type of eating disorder or sleep disorder.
Don’t know if this take is “controversial” or not by LR standards but it sure is b***s**t. That last sentence, I mean WTF??
These morans can't decide if Tuohy is excessively strong ("bulky" I think they said), or has an ED.
She definitely has a hitch. Could be some meaningful bone asymmetry. More than one way to be successful.
Yes, she did, but now…it is infrequent, if it even shows up. Did you see the “definite” hitch in her most recent race? If so, please point to the evidence.
Your last statement makes no sense, suggesting she will be successful with a “hitch” (which seems to be less of an issue now).
It is somewhat crazy for her team to be considering “steeple season” if there is some major structural deficiency, no?
When it comes to Cross-Training for runners, there are three major attributes to consider:
1) Type/Method
2) Duration
3) Intensity
Theparticular Type/Method can not only improve cardiovascular fitness, but can also improve Functional Strength.
Obviously, determination of these factors depends upon the objective of the Cross-Training, i.e., whether it’s being done for rehab, recovery, maintenance, or training.
When it comes to Cross-Training for runners, there are three major attributes to consider:
1) Type/Method
2) Duration
3) Intensity
Theparticular Type/Method can not only improve cardiovascular fitness, but can also improve Functional Strength.
Obviously, determination of these factors depends upon the objective of the Cross-Training, i.e., whether it’s being done for rehab, recovery, maintenance, or training.
Even with the objective of using Cross-Training as a training method alternative (to that of actually running), the Intensity is a big, open-ended factor in determining its benefits.
And quite frankly, Cross-Training for training benefit at relatively high intensity, for extended periods of time in singular sessions, and over weeks and months, can be a huge challenge, which most runners would consider to be a lot less pleasant in lieu of actually running.
And quite frankly, Cross-Training for training benefit at relatively high intensity, for extended periods of time in singular sessions, and over weeks and months, can be a huge challenge, which most runners would consider to be a lot less pleasant in lieu of actually running.
That is one thing I will credit Valby for. She must be very driven to do probably half or so of her training by herself on a machine, some apparently at high intensity.
Youvare stuck in the past. You will be talking about Tuohy's HS achievement forever. Valby is healthy and she the fastest woman in history while Tuohy is breaking down. You don't seem to be able to grasp what the fastest in history means. You thought that woukd be Tuohy while she is not even the best amongst her peers. Valby has surpassed her in the distances and Wiley has done it in the mid distances.
Tuohy had a bit of a rough year. But she is also the fastest at age 20, US runner to break 8:40 (and probably higher than that). That is not a highschool accomplishment. It remains to be seen what the future holds for her, but it is premature to write her off.
In Jake Wightman’s video, one of the benefits of Cross-Training (on the elliptical in his case) was the ability to more easily modulate Heart Rate intensity. He said that at his Cross-Training intensity on the elliptical, 10hrs/wk provided a running equivalent of 90 miles.
Wightman was using Cross-Training for rehab purposes, and he kind of describes it as a ‘s***-fest’, and seemed to indicate he looked forward to getting back to replacing it with actual running again.
In Jake Wightman’s video, one of the benefits of Cross-Training (on the elliptical in his case) was the ability to more easily modulate Heart Rate intensity. He said that at his Cross-Training intensity on the elliptical, 10hrs/wk provided a running equivalent of 90 miles.
Wightman was using Cross-Training for rehab purposes, and he kind of describes it as a ‘s***-fest’, and seemed to indicate he looked forward to getting back to replacing it with actual running again.
Edit: “…was using Cross-Training for rehab purposes (while achieving cardiovascular training benefit)…”
Youvare stuck in the past. You will be talking about Tuohy's HS achievement forever. Valby is healthy and she the fastest woman in history while Tuohy is breaking down. You don't seem to be able to grasp what the fastest in history means. You thought that woukd be Tuohy while she is not even the best amongst her peers. Valby has surpassed her in the distances and Wiley has done it in the mid distances.
Tuohy had a bit of a rough year. But she is also the fastest at age 20, US runner to break 8:40 (and probably higher than that). That is not a highschool accomplishment. It remains to be seen what the future holds for her, but it is premature to write her off.
Tuohy's 3000 is equal (per World Athletics) to Wiley's 1500. Valby's 5000 is close behind. Tuohy, Wiley, and Valby have all had great performances this year. Ups and downs just come with the territory, no big deal.
Density means mass/volume. Lack of bone density leads to stress fractures when running a lot. Is this low bone density also what makes some of these runners go faster or is it negligible? For example is one skeletal frame a few pounds lighter than another due to low bone density? If yes, it seems to be a double edged sword. It helps them run faster by being lighter (bones aren't muscle so they don't help your speed), but they may break if you train too much.
no young runners should have low BD (osteopenia) unless there is an underlying medical condition. Low BD is of no benefit to running.
Yeah he also said he thought it would make him aerobically fitter than just running because he never did long sessions like that running, and thought he could get more work in. He is also an 800m / miler though, not 5k, I wonder if that matters.
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