Official Idaho 2024 Track Thread

Yeah those guys are a bunch of trolls and memers

Looks like a decent turnout for Simplot this year. Jourdon, Simmons, and Hedengren up from Utah along with about everyone else I’m familiar with. CDA is coming down along with Stadtlander, Stockett, and others in Idaho to join the SE Idaho runners so it should be a pretty good meet for the Idaho kids, Plus some fast runners from other states are coming out too. You never know who in Idaho will be in shape for indoor racing with the lack of a season, bad weather and a general lack of indoor tracks, but Simplot is always fun.

Also, Sheesley, Helder, Kemper, Goggins, Max CS in the 3200m. Johnston, Athay, Jacob King, Zach CS, Carr, Frampton, Goss in the 1600.

Heywood, Orme, Draney, Chitwood in the 800. Klarisa Earl, Paisley Taylor, Annabelle Carr, Kindig, Roberts in the 1600m. Pollock, Earl, Sanford in the 3200m.

Probably missed some, but these are the frequently talked about names/people that will be impact runners this year in 4A/5A that are at Simplot.

It’s a fun meet, but it’s crazy how much slower some Idaho kids will run here than they will a few months later in outdoor track. Give credit to fast times because obviously those kids put in the work, but at the same time don’t overthink anyone running much slower than expected. It’s indoor and many of these athletes are just running uncoached moderate mileage without workouts and show up because racing is fun and to be with teammates.

It’d be interesting if Idaho ever had an actual coached indoor season, but I don’t hear anyone clamoring for it.

Helder 9:23.99, Cervi-Skinner 9:24.06, Sheesley 9:29.62, Kemper 9:39.57.

Converts to about 9:08.03, 9:08.10, 9:13.25, and 9:23.01 for sea level times according to Final Surge.

Drop down list of sea level performances so far are Heemeyer in sub 9, Ringert in 9:07-ish, Helder and CS in 9:08, Lucas in 9:12, Sheesley in 9:13.

Should say, including times from last year.

Lots more results...

Pollock 11:19.72, Earl 11:26.00, Sanford 11:49.70

In the boys mile, Stadtlander runs 4:18, Max CS 4:26, Stockett 4:27, King 4:28, Goss 4:29, Frampton 4:31, Athay 4:31, Carr 4:32. In the girls mile, Paisley Taylor in 5:10 and Roberts in 5:14.

Idaho kids came to play.

Per my previous post, my altitude conversions from Final Surge were probably too big. The NCAA charts seem more accurate. In the 3200, it's about 12 seconds for boys and about 14 seconds for the girls. In the mile, it's about 5 seconds for boys and 6 seconds for the girls.

So rough 1600 times at sea level:

4:12, 4:19, 4:20, 4:22, 4:23, 4:24, 4:25, 4:26.

Not sure why you gave some extra time off in your conversions. Your point stands either way. It’s very close to 5s at these speeds. Not 6-7 for some.

4:13.6, 4:21.2, etc.

Above poster called it a mile. I didn’t look to see if it was a 1600 or a mile. I was adjusting a mile to 1600, I see it’s a 1600 though. So yes, 5 seconds. 6-7 for if it was a mile to a sea level 1600

Yep, my mistake. They ran 1600, not mile.

Regardless, CDA now has returners that have already run 9:12, 4:21, and 4:26 altitude adjusted times this season, as well as a 4:40 1600m.

Also of note, Parker Goggins ran 10:01 in the 3200 yesterday. Roughly 9:48/9:49. Rocky is returning Lucas, Tuft, Kurtz, and Goggins (along with a bunch of other boys). With Goggins, that gives them 9:12, 9:47, 9:48/9:49, 10:00, 10:01, 10:09, 10:14 for returners including their HOKA times. Very possible we see them with 1 sub 9, 2 sub 9:40, and 3-4 more sub 10.

Next cross season already looks like it's going to be crazy.

To qualify for NXN, Rocky Mountain will need to get through CDA, Jesuit OR, or Crater OR.

One at-large boys team from NW is possible (not guaranteed), but two at-large boys teams is unlikely

I think we'll probably see two Idaho teams in the top 4-5 at NXR again. Of the Oregon teams, it will be a little bit of a switch up from the last few years.

Crater is finally going to have some depth in addition to 2 athletes who will be in contention for top 5 at NXR, but I have doubts about their ability to build consistent year over year growth with their athletes, so we'll see. (look at last year as an example)

Jesuit isn't going to have the depth they've had in the past, but they are returning nearly a full lineup, and they have proven themselves to always be in the mix, even in years when they have returned a much worse squad.

CDA is going to be losing some high impact runners, but they're making up for it with an increase in depth, especially in the younger runners who are more prone to making big jumps. I could see them winning NXR, but at the same time it wouldn't surprise me if they got 3rd or 4th.

Rocky will be the same story as always, 1 or 2 really good runners, and a serious amount of depth. Winning NXR outright seems dubious at this point, but they are for sure a podium threat like they've been the last 3 years or so.

Might as well finish and do a full write up of the situation at this point.

Franklin (3rd 2023) seems to be out of the picture, as does Bozeman (7th). Both of these teams are loosing too many high impact athletes to realistically be a top 5 team without transfers or a miracle.

Seattle Prep (5th) and Star Valley (8th) both have some holes to fill in, but a great track season could put them into the conversation.

Boise (10th) did not do good at NXR, but they return quite a bit of depth, and they've been consistent at developing their athletes, so I think they're certainly a top 5 threat at this point, and a really good track season could put them into the NXN mix.

One dark horse would be Sehome (22nd). They certainly have the potential for the most year over year improvement. They did good at the Washington state meet, but I think their lack of experience on the NXR course got the better of them, as they underperformed massively. However, they return 7 of 7, so don't be suprised if you see their name floating around

Simmons 8:48 3200 at Simplot.

Hedengren 10:02 3200 at Simplot.

Franklin returns a very strong top 3 - Courcelle, McEwen, and McQuillen (all went under 16 at NXR NW). They will just need to develop a #4&5. They have a lot of time to do it.

Helena MT is another one to watch. They took 11th and return everyone, but lack a front runner.

Kamiakin WA is another one to watch. They return 5 guys including a Teeples. They made NXN from 2017-2019.

Issaquah WA returns 6 of their top 7. Their top returner ran a 15:16 at The Mook invite, but I’m not sure how that course is.

Boise ID was missing their #1 (Helder) from NXR. But they do return 6 guys under 17.

Provided they can figure out how to stay healthy, I do think Centennial could be a dark horse to be a top 10 team in the region.

They have two sophomores that ran 9:54 as freshmen, another sophomore that was probably in sub 9:50 shape during cross, a sophomore that ran 10:13, and a sophomore that ran 10:28. On paper, they should have three guys that should be legit and they aren't super weak at 4 and 5.

Then again, they had a coaching change, and their 4:14, 4:23, and both 9:54 freshmen were injured for large chunks of the season.

I also don't think you can dismiss Mountain View from being regionally relevant, either.