But that doesnt stop us from comparing an individual to others at his position. I would have said Kelce immediately, since he is arguably the best of all time at his position. He is utterly unstoppable in a sport of genetic freaks. Honestly i have never seen anything like it. not Gronk, not Gonzalez.
Grant is remarkable, esp as an american MD runner. He is not even close to the best right now and certainly not all time! He has had some fine finishes.
Gronk was both the best blocking TE in the NFL and the most clutch player during his tenure. He is taller, bigger, and had a faster 40y than Kelce. His fingers are an inch bigger than Kelce's and can wrap his hand around the football.
Kelce is more durable, isn't used in blocking often, and is his QB's primary target in every game. Gronk could block like a guard and in Belechicks offense, sometimes wasn't even targeted during games. If Gronk played for Andy Reid and was targeted the same way as Kelce, he would have the same status. ...he almost does anyways, despite missing parts or entire seasons.
Gronk will always be the most dominant and complete TE in NFL history. Kelce is the top of the Sharpe/Gonzalez/Gates style TEs in history.
None of those guys including gronk take over games like kelce. Kelce is the best WR and TE on the field at every game. Gronk has 100s less receptions than Kelce at the same amount of games. Gates and Gonzalez played longer but kelce is on a much much faster tear to those numbers. Gronk is great blocker and has more TDs so ill take either one i guess. But Grant is not top 15 of all time.
Grant Fisher placed 5th in the Olympics and owns several North American records.
Travis Kelce twice was on a team of 50+ players, which defeated the other teams of 50+ players in an American only championship.
To everyone making arguments like this.
Let's assume the whole world played American football. Do you really think there would be stilll be anyone better than Kelce? It doesn't strike me that we are losing a lot of TE talent simply because American football isn't big in China, India or Brazil.
Trick question. Fisher is world class at a sport. Kelce plays a niche game known as American football. It’s like comparing Grant to a dart player or bowling. No contest, Fisher all day every day.
I can find four or five guys in the world who can defeat Grant Fisher, 5000m or 10000m.
Go to N.B.A., any soccer team in the world, N.H.L., M.L.B., professional boxing, javelin throwers or discus throwers (elite javelin throwers &/ or discus throwers tend to be close to N.C.A.A. D-1 & N.F.L. size TEs). Are you going to be able to find five men anywhere in the world who could make Travis Kelce a backup TE?
Yes. With a great QB, dominate TEs are quite common in the NFL. Before Kelce, there was Gronk, before Gronk there was Antonio Gates, before Gates there was Shannon Sharpe.
Heck I'll bet that Lebron could be as good as Kelce
I can find four or five guys in the world who can defeat Grant Fisher, 5000m or 10000m.
Go to N.B.A., any soccer team in the world, N.H.L., M.L.B., professional boxing, javelin throwers or discus throwers (elite javelin throwers &/ or discus throwers tend to be close to N.C.A.A. D-1 & N.F.L. size TEs). Are you going to be able to find five men anywhere in the world who could make Travis Kelce a backup TE?
I love how all of the supposed running fans on this thread are just a$$ hats when it comes to a large man who plays football. Not one person on this thread should be trying to diminish Grant Fisher. We need to build up and elevate our sport, and you a$$ hats will take anyone who is somewhat good, and try to tear them down when compared to anything else. F:ck off.
Kelce isn't just a football player, he's a tight end, specifically. He's not a top 10 all time football player, but he's arguably a top 10 all time TE. Fisher is definitely not a top 10 all time track and field athlete, and he's not top 10 all time at his specialty either. I doubt he's top 20.
Kelce is better at this specialty within his sport, easily.
Trick question. Fisher is world class at a sport. Kelce plays a niche game known as American football. It’s like comparing Grant to a dart player or bowling. No contest, Fisher all day every day.
I'm not convinced global T&F is as competitive as American football. Certainly, the sport globally has less money in it than American football. Money is a pretty good proxy for competitiveness of a given endeavor; people really, REALLY seem to like money.
I can find four or five guys in the world who can defeat Grant Fisher, 5000m or 10000m.
Go to N.B.A., any soccer team in the world, N.H.L., M.L.B., professional boxing, javelin throwers or discus throwers (elite javelin throwers &/ or discus throwers tend to be close to N.C.A.A. D-1 & N.F.L. size TEs). Are you going to be able to find five men anywhere in the world who could make Travis Kelce a backup TE?
Yes. With a great QB, dominate TEs are quite common in the NFL. Before Kelce, there was Gronk, before Gronk there was Antonio Gates, before Gates there was Shannon Sharpe.
Heck I'll bet that Lebron could be as good as Kelce
Reminder.
O.P.'s question: Who is better at their sport? T Kelce or G Fisher?
Another reminder.
Easily, I can get 7 men in total today who can beat Grant Fisher at 5000m &/or 10000m.
Lebron James as on old man? No.
In order to find an athlete who could put T Kelce on the bench, you have to say: If athlete A or athlete B or athlete C played Pop Warner football from age 8 or 9 then high school football then N.C.A.A. D-1 football ... L James skipped college football.
* TE have to run block.
* TE have to block on screen plays at times.
* Elite pass catching TEs like T Kelce have to read defenses well. Pass routes have options.
As I stated, I can go get guys today to beat G Fisher 5000m &/or 10000m. No one not playing Am. football can put T Kelce on the bench.
Where you getting Kelce as the best TE of all time from? He's still far behing Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates stats wise. Has he surpased GRONK, Jason Witten and Shannon Sharpe yet? What is going on is yes he s heading towards surpassing everyone but not there yet.
do you realize how many kids make up a football team and therefore have an opportunity to see if they can be great? I'd bet most states have more kids playing high school football than high school cross country
Taking the question at face value, Kelce, no contest. He is better at American Football than Fisher is at distance running. I acknowledge that Fisher competes against the world whereas Kelce only competes against a tiny slice of Americans - that makes the question a stupid question, but it doesn’t change the answer. Kelce is the correct answer to this stupid question.
Where you getting Kelce as the best TE of all time from? He's still far behing Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates stats wise. Has he surpased GRONK, Jason Witten and Shannon Sharpe yet? What is going on is yes he s heading towards surpassing everyone but not there yet.
kelce has easily surpassed everyone but gronk. gates cracked 1000 yards twice, gonzalez 4 times; kelce's done it 7 straight years and shows no signs of slowing down. whether or not he decides to hang around for a ton of years padding career stats is irrelevant, his extended prime has far surpassed what those guys did.
witten and sharpe were great players but dont belong in this conversation
gronk is the only arguable one, depending on how much you weigh things like blocking and durability. personally i'd take peak gronkowski over anyone but Im a pats fan. In any case it's a 1/1a situation
Look don’t know if you are a swiftie or what but Kelce is simply a cog in the system. The sport he plays is football , the sport isn’t tight end. The “sport” of football is offense, defense and special teams. You could argue that Kelce isn’t even the best football player on his own team. He touched the ball maybe 1/3 of the time. His blocking is average, btw.