Craig Engels calling out other atheltes

Of course, I am familiar with Nandrolone, but what's the point you are making?

Nobody answers to Craig Engles. He should focus on his own training.

This becomes a semantic discussion, unless you're saying that athletes with mental
conditions should not be athletes if they want to treat those conditions, which I would wholly disagree with. Even asthma TUEs - a shot putter with asthma should be able to pursue his event without stigma. Whether they are PEDs or not is not irrelevant if their "advantage" is merely fixing a disadvantage that a typical athlete would not have. I am fine with the playing field being levelled in that manner (especially since these drugs are extremely commonly and easily prescribed out of the sport anyways and are necessary for everyday life for significant demographics of people). It's when the TUE abuse comes in that it becomes an issue to me.

What podcast was this on?

If he were really committed to this idea, wouldn't he post this on his grid? This is in Stories, right, and will disappear? Can people reply to Stories?

I'll go ahead and reply for him. He's referencing the fact that after Shelby's bust Jerry Schumacher claimed he had NEVER heard of Nandrolone. That was the point when many us became convinced BTC/Schumacher were dirty no matter how much they protested the opposite.

It's less a shot at you, and more a deserved shot at Jerry.

Oh, nothing.

....I've just heard another top coach rationalize the difficulty athletes have with the whereabouts process later go on to claim he's never heard of Nandrolone despite his star athlete getting popped for it and getting banned for four years. Forgive me for being sceptical when hearing a coach rationalize whereabouts failures. I'd call it a serious red flag regardless of the circumstance!

I hear positive and negative responses. Craig Engles should set up a gofundMe site.

it would be interesting to see how many positives put there money where there mouth is.

I’m neutral on the topic but who can deny a stache and a mullet.

Another PATHETIC virtue signaller. "Look at ME, look how "CLEAN" I am".

PATHETIC Simp.

Maaannnn.....you ain't never met no Frank Sinatra

Nuguse is in the hole on strike 2.

This whole thread has been so puzzling. People complain about how much doping is going on in the sport, but at the same time would rather dogpile Craig because he's slower than the people he's calling out?

Um, he's slower than them because (according to you guys) they're all dopers!

You can literally never win on this website, lol!

Engels has all the talent in the world, but he's never had the singleminded dedication to running that's needed to be the best at that level. There's nothing wrong with that, if anything it makes him more relatable. But his lack of success in recent years has little to do with doping, and this type of passive-aggressive posting is a bad look imo.

TUE?

Be mad at "all the other athletes" you want, but in reality they are playing by the rules that WADA/USADA have set forth. TUE's are not illegal and you do get so many missed tests. So if Craig is pi$$ed about those things maybe he should ring up the governing body. Not lift the bar higher by pretending everyone else should bow down to his higher standard????

So a clean sport is not the goal then? It’s ok to be dirty as long as they’re “playing by the rules”?

TUEs and wherabouts failures are seen as obvious loopholes that dirty athletes can use to game the system. While I feel this might not be the best look on Engels because I’m sure there are completely “clean” users of TUEs or had a failed whereabouts check or two, I think this might be the only real way he can get the message out about his feelings. Obviously he feels there should be a higher standard, and this is how he’s telling the word (and governing bodies) this higher standard should be met.

The harsh reality is that people are abusing these loopholes that are meant to be grace areas for athletes in special cases or that made a mistake. Yes, if we actually want a clean sport, then a higher standard should be expected.

There should be a public record of all missed tests.

This even reached German athletes. Sam Parsons and Catharina Granz posted their wada website screens.

Not a fan of this. This forces/urges people to disclose very personal medical information.