Her fuel/passenger ratio is much higher than average, and consequently, she has a much higher carbon footprint (and I think I once saw her footprint in a forest) than the average passenger, thus she is a greater contributor to climate change.
On a plus note, plants love carbon dioxide, so there'll be more for her to eat
I had to sit next to a woman her size on a flight. Her friend, who was the same size, had the aisle. She had the middle seat and I had the window. I’m not exaggerating, I was pressed against the window. If I was bigger there was no way we were all sitting in the row.
I was pissed. I paid for my seat but yet I didn’t get to fully use it. Instead she was taking up most of it. It is unfair. She should have compensated me.
Airlines should charge by total weight, your weight plus baggage.
You should have flown first class or private if you wanted comfort.
They can travel with dignity by losing weight, buying business class, Or hell buying an exit row seat which usually is what, $50 more max? Or just moving to a row with two empty seats, which I do all the time. They take up the space of two people. This wasn't done to them. They chose it. Heaven forbid being morbidly obese has a consequence. The seats already can accommodate obese people. These are morbidly obese +. Enough is enough.
I'm thinking she might not be the best person to be in an exit row. At least right away. Can't drain the sink if there's a plug in it.
The number of people who are that large due to thryoid is quite small. I actually do have a thryroid condition, but because I ran a good amount it went undiagnosed for 42 years. I have another friend who had a terrible time with her weight until she had her thryroid removed; now she's skinny. So yeah, it happens, but isn't common at all.
The thing is, the airlines are going to have to address this one way or another because a majority of people are obese, and business is about appeasing customers. Do you see people suddenly getting healthy in the next 10-20 years? It's not happening so businesses like airlines are going to have to figure it out.
It’s not unreasonable for plus sizers to expect and airlines to offer options enabling travel with dignity, an easy way being to just have a small number of extra room (like 1.5x or even “flex rows” with seat room adjustable by employees) seats that also cost more so folks can choose to either fit between normal armrests or pay for seats with more room.
Making them buy two seats is just not a decent thing to do.
I am not an engineer but curious how this "adjustable" seat would work. Also, some airlines have wider seats that are not between economy and business class already.
They can travel with dignity by losing weight, buying business class, Or hell buying an exit row seat which usually is what, $50 more max? Or just moving to a row with two empty seats, which I do all the time. They take up the space of two people. This wasn't done to them. They chose it. Heaven forbid being morbidly obese has a consequence. The seats already can accommodate obese people. These are morbidly obese +. Enough is enough.
Two empty seats is often a rarity on planes these days. The only time I have seen a big supply is on Saturday night flights.
The number of people who are that large due to thryoid is quite small. I actually do have a thryroid condition, but because I ran a good amount it went undiagnosed for 42 years. I have another friend who had a terrible time with her weight until she had her thryroid removed; now she's skinny. So yeah, it happens, but isn't common at all.
The thing is, the airlines are going to have to address this one way or another because a majority of people are obese, and business is about appeasing customers. Do you see people suddenly getting healthy in the next 10-20 years? It's not happening so businesses like airlines are going to have to figure it out.
Someone should start Fat Airlines. Cater to fat people. Maybe they'd use blimps.
They have. Its called southwest airlines (the Walmart of the skies)
I had to sit next to a woman her size on a flight. Her friend, who was the same size, had the aisle. She had the middle seat and I had the window. I’m not exaggerating, I was pressed against the window. If I was bigger there was no way we were all sitting in the row.
I was pissed. I paid for my seat but yet I didn’t get to fully use it. Instead she was taking up most of it. It is unfair. She should have compensated me.
Airlines should charge by total weight, your weight plus baggage.
Oh no, how could this happen to you? You paid for your seat and didn't get to fully use it? The horror! And to think, all you had to endure was a little bit of discomfort for the duration of the flight. I can only imagine the trauma you must be going through. But hey, at least you came up with a great idea for airlines to charge passengers by weight! Because why should someone's physical size ever be a personal issue when you can just shame them and make them pay more instead? Bravo, truly.
But now imagine your statement not to the healthy weight passenger, but to the obese passenger in the NYPost article:
Oh no, how could this happen to you? You paid for your seat and couldn't fit into it? The horror! And to think, all you had to endure was a little bit of discomfort for the duration of the flight. I can only imagine the trauma you must be going through. But hey, at least you came up with a great idea for airlines to charge passengers by weight! Because why should someone's physical size ever be a personal issue when you can just use someone else's seat instead? Bravo, truly.
Aside from the obesity issue, the airplane seat issue comes down to two fundamentally different viewpoints: Are you renting the seat and seat space for the duration of the flight (like a sporting event in a stadium), or are you paying for the transport only (like a city bus where you find a space to sit/stand). My view is that you are clearly renting the seat. You wouldn't let your neighbor borrow a room in your house. You wouldn't let someone else's kid sit on your lap at a football game. So why are you letting someone take half your seat on a flight?
Given how obese Americans have come over the past few decades, it makes sense to require commercial airliners to provide a fair number of seats for the plus sized
My kids never caused problems on planes because my wife would nurse them when they were little and we would read to them or have them read or draw. Just paying attention and having a conversation with them makes the trip go by quickly and they aren't noisy or kicking the seat in front of them. There's no reason most kids should be a problem at all on board.