Jakob Ingebrigtsen: "My main goal is to become the best runner that ever existed."

Coe was 26.

At the moment J. Ingebrigtsen for sure is missing an outdoor WR and Coe must be ranked ahead of him without a doubt. But if he can get such a record it's just a matter of time when he becomes the greatest European runner in history.

All the very best 1500-5k runners have competed over the same distances for decades, that have included the 3k. It is squarely in their ball park. None have got close to Komen's record in quarter of a century.

You claim, without any justification, that certain records have endured because of an indifference to improving upon them. If a record is "soft" it is easily and dramatically improved. If it isn't soft - it lasts. The 3k fits the latter and it hasn't lasted because the best runners have lacked any real interest in breaking it. The 1500 world record-holder couldn't get near it and neither has any 5k world record-holder including the current record holder. Anyone who understands the sport - it seems you aren't in that category - knows it is a near superhuman record.

Anyone who understands the sport - it seems you aren't in that category - knows that El Guerrouj only ran the 3000m on 3 occasions.

I must disappoint you! I can´t remember I have seen your username before even though I have read and contributed to many threads on these pages especially about international toprunners on the middle and long distances. So I am definitively not stalking you and I don´t know what you wrote last summer before the WC 5000m before seeing your above post.

I think your advice to Fisher at least seen in retrospective was wishful thinking since Fisher (and the other toprunners) obviously had no chance to beat Jakob in that 5000m final.

I know many posters (American patriots?) have been critical to Fishers performance in the 5000m final. I my neutral and unbiased opinion Fisher ran a great and smart race:

He ran close to the rail the whole race saving his energy for the finish. When Jakob took the lead 900m out Fisher had the best position in the field just behind Jakob. He couldn´t hold Jakob´s back when the latter changed to the highest gear about 150m out but he would possibly have got the bronze hadn´t he had his rail accident.

If Fisher had followed your advice he couldn´t have done better. If Fisher couldn´t hang on even though he had been drafted the whole race how should he fare better if he himself had been the pacemaker from 900m to go?

Check out El Guerrouj 3k world record attempt on youtube. Great run, but he was struggling at the end. Maybe that's why he only ran 3 3k's? Maybe not.

That's what happens when you can't get close to the record.

One 1500 Oly Gold = Two 5000 Oly Golds and Three 10000 Oly Golds, correct?

What in the hell are you on?

While I'm Pro-Jakob anyday. That's quite a vague dream.

What do you mean "Greatest"? People to this day dispute between Gebrselassie, Bekele, and Kipchoge. It's not like with Usain Bolt where he holds Two world records that have had historical debate for Fastest Man alive (Michael Johnson-Donovan Bailey).

If he means acquire World Records. He's off by quite a margin.

1500 - WR: 3:26.00 Jakob: 3:28.32

Mile - WR: 3:43.13 Jakob: 3:46.46

2000 - WR: 4:44.79 Jakob: 4:50.01

3000 - WR: 7:20.67 Jakob: 7:27.05

5000 - WR: 12:35.36 Jakob: 12:48.45

I like my G but, He's got a long way to go.

Is he speaking for the women also? I strongly believe that when Letesenbet Gidey finishes her running career and returns to the Endameskal village to raise a family, she will have the most outstanding record when compared to her international running peers past and present. Jacob cannot possibly hope to gap his competitors in that way that she has/will. next year she will add the marathon WR to her accomplishments. Only other thing she will be gunning for is Olympic gold in the 10000m

0.81 seconds per km away from the record, on his only serious attempt, must be considered "close to the record" over 3000 m.

Pharmaceutical industry is happy

It wasn't 0.81. Nowhere near. His pb was 7.23 as against Komen's 7.20.

Did you even graduate highschool? Open up your calculator and divide 2.42 (which is the difference between Komen's time and ElG's time) by 3, see what you get. Embarrassing.

Any athlete have concrete goals and more vague goals or dreams if you like. I dont understand the fuzz or need to discuss this to much. I expect any young athlete that is at the top or close to the top of their sport to have dreams of becoming a legend or the best of the best. I don't know if its a difference in culture that makes people react on this.

It must be easier to do the work needed to become the best if you have a dream of actually becoming the best. Judging by some other runners, even in the 1500 it seems like some runners would have benefitted by dreaming bigger.

And I try to explain some things to you since months. It actually was less than 0.81/km, Army...

And this imbecile is occupying thread after thread - "anyone at the top is doping, non Kenyans mostly try to get to the top legitimately".

And it was far from perfectly paced. He probably was capable of breaking the record on this occasion - but definitely while concentrating more on the distance. He has had just one more attempt on the distance outdoors after this one - according to the letsrun non-checker no. 1 because El G knew the record to be out of reach.

I didn't read the fatuous distinction "per kilometre" because it is irrelevant. It is no more relevant than saying he was only 0.081 secs slower per 100 metres or even 0.0081secs per metre. So ph*qing what. It looks closer but the end result is the same. El G was 2.42 secs slower over the full distance - which is nowhere near Komen's record. Dividing that time differential by 3 is meaningless and makes him no closer to a record he couldn't break.

Ah so the problem is not your inability to do 2nd grade calculations, it's actually your illiteracy - the person said 0.81s per km.