I only stated facts. Hitler was clearly a demagogue. Demagogues can make good people do terrible things regardless of their religious preference. The thesis that wars and mass killings are caused by atheists is what I find to be ridiculous.
The thesis I stated was not quite what you claim immediately above my words here. My thesis was: "Regimes and entities that were or are agnostic, atheistic, or otherwise opposed to traditional religions have been, by very, very, very, far, the biggest killers of innocent human beings in history."
Planned Parenthood and Marie Stopes International even alone puts refutation of that thesis out of reach.
You’re still trying to label these things as always being atheist or religion based as if you’re keeping score. I won’t discuss abortion - but wars against others are “We” vs “They” propositions. Humans are tribal by nature. Sometimes the tribal boundaries are drawn using religious beliefs or a lack there of. Sometimes religion has nothing to do with it. Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao were idealists and demagogues. So were many of the religious leaders who instigated wars and crimes against others in the past.
Please refer to the subsequent post on atheistic, agnostic and other regimes or entities that were against traditional religions and which slaughtered enormous numbers of innocent human beings.
Please refer to:
1) Holy wars in which Christians and Muslims slaughtered each other by the tens of millions in the name of, you guessed it, God.
2) Aztecs, whose ritual slaughter of thousands daily was performed in the name of, you guessed right again, God.
3) Spanish and Portuguese conquerors of the new world who butchered tens of millions and often blew their brains out immediately upon the "savages" conversion to Christendom in order to "save their souls for eternity."
4) The support of Hitler and his German Nazi savages by the "Holy" Roman Church.
4) Islamic holy warriors of today who are often known by a different name (terrorists).
5) Russian Orthodox Church of today condoning the ruthless slaughter of Ukrainians in order to fulfill who's will again - oh yeah, that would be God's will.
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Got anything else? Or would you simply like to concede the point that those who don't pray might have greater respect for human life than those who do pray, and lack of respect for human life is a big part of the violence problem in the USA.
Or perhaps you really do have specific evidence that says otherwise but you have simply been hiding it.
- "[T]ens of millions?" - What are you, an historian or sumfin'?
- "The support of Hitler and his German Nazi savages by the "Holy" Roman Church" - It almost seems as if you were dwelling on the Holy Roman Empire. But Hitler had plotted to kidnap Pope Pius XII and killed thousands of Catholic clergy including St. Maximilian Kolbe at Auschwitz in 1941 and St. Edith Stein also at Auschwitz in 1942.
Please refer to the subsequent post on atheistic, agnostic and other regimes or entities that were against traditional religions and which slaughtered enormous numbers of innocent human beings.
Please refer to:
1) Holy wars in which Christians and Muslims slaughtered each other by the tens of millions in the name of, you guessed it, God.
2) Aztecs, whose ritual slaughter of thousands daily was performed in the name of, you guessed right again, God.
3) Spanish and Portuguese conquerors of the new world who butchered tens of millions and often blew their brains out immediately upon the "savages" conversion to Christendom in order to "save their souls for eternity."
4) The support of Hitler and his German Nazi savages by the "Holy" Roman Church.
4) Islamic holy warriors of today who are often known by a different name (terrorists).
5) Russian Orthodox Church of today condoning the ruthless slaughter of Ukrainians in order to fulfill who's will again - oh yeah, that would be God's will.
.
.
.
Got anything else? Or would you simply like to concede the point that those who don't pray might have greater respect for human life than those who do pray, and lack of respect for human life is a big part of the violence problem in the USA.
Or perhaps you really do have specific evidence that says otherwise but you have simply been hiding it.
A very tired and false accusation. Mark Riebling's Church of Spies: The Pope's Secret War Against Hitler does a fairly thorough job refuting it:
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The worst thing about this incident is that the lives that have been shattered. The poor teacher and the staff and all of those beautiful children who were in that class. A terrible terrible tragedy.
Let me guess the kid is "raised" by a single mother.
How about don't assume? My knee-jerk reaction is that guns are more easily associated with males. I am curious about the family/household situation and dynamics.
Those who pray might have greater respect for human life than those who don't pray, and lack of respect for human life is a big part of the violence problem in the USA.
The problem with the expression Thoughts and Prayers is that it has become a cop out for politicians.
Thoughts and Prayers = No way in Hell am I getting involved in this issue.
1) Holy wars in which Christians and Muslims slaughtered each other by the tens of millions in the name of, you guessed it, God.
2) Aztecs, whose ritual slaughter of thousands daily was performed in the name of, you guessed right again, God.
3) Spanish and Portuguese conquerors of the new world who butchered tens of millions and often blew their brains out immediately upon the "savages" conversion to Christendom in order to "save their souls for eternity."
4) The support of Hitler and his German Nazi savages by the "Holy" Roman Church.
4) Islamic holy warriors of today who are often known by a different name (terrorists).
5) Russian Orthodox Church of today condoning the ruthless slaughter of Ukrainians in order to fulfill who's will again - oh yeah, that would be God's will.
.
.
.
Got anything else? Or would you simply like to concede the point that those who don't pray might have greater respect for human life than those who do pray, and lack of respect for human life is a big part of the violence problem in the USA.
Or perhaps you really do have specific evidence that says otherwise but you have simply been hiding it.
- "[T]ens of millions?" - What are you, an historian or sumfin'?
- "The support of Hitler and his German Nazi savages by the "Holy" Roman Church" - It almost seems as if you were dwelling on the Holy Roman Empire. But Hitler had plotted to kidnap Pope Pius XII and killed thousands of Catholic clergy including St. Maximilian Kolbe at Auschwitz in 1941 and St. Edith Stein also at Auschwitz in 1942.
1) Holy wars in which Christians and Muslims slaughtered each other by the tens of millions in the name of, you guessed it, God.
2) Aztecs, whose ritual slaughter of thousands daily was performed in the name of, you guessed right again, God.
3) Spanish and Portuguese conquerors of the new world who butchered tens of millions and often blew their brains out immediately upon the "savages" conversion to Christendom in order to "save their souls for eternity."
4) The support of Hitler and his German Nazi savages by the "Holy" Roman Church.
4) Islamic holy warriors of today who are often known by a different name (terrorists).
5) Russian Orthodox Church of today condoning the ruthless slaughter of Ukrainians in order to fulfill who's will again - oh yeah, that would be God's will.
.
.
.
Got anything else? Or would you simply like to concede the point that those who don't pray might have greater respect for human life than those who do pray, and lack of respect for human life is a big part of the violence problem in the USA.
Or perhaps you really do have specific evidence that says otherwise but you have simply been hiding it.
A very tired and false accusation. Mark Riebling's Church of Spies: The Pope's Secret War Against Hitler does a fairly thorough job refuting it: