Yeah, El G’s fastest 5k was 12:50.24. In a way the case I made could be construed as disingenuous, since for example I’m sure El G and Farah were both capable of sub-12:50, but still they are the facts.
I’ve argued many times that several (8-10?) men could have run 7:20.67-7:24.99 for 3k, despite only 3 having done it: Komen, El G, and Wale. Farah’s among those guys, and so is Ingebrigtsen.
Not sure if this is necessarily a hot take or not but I don't think Jakob finishes his career with any outdoor WRs and I don't think it negatively impacts his legacy in the slightest. Could see him owning lots of road and indoor WRs because the way they train seems to have him in phenomenal shape almost year round.
Haha I wrote exactly this on one of the many J.I threads here over the last 18 months and got crucified as if it was ripping him/underrating him. I mean there are a number of reasons this is highly likely/more plausible than not - and the biggest one is kind of obvious, which is that other than the 5000m, all the records he is shooting at were set in the mid to late 90s (1500m-98, Mile-99, 2000m-99, 3000m-96) and I don't think it's a stretch to hypothesize that's not just a coincidence.
I thought about this the other day - where could he get to in the all-time annuls without a WR. If he wins the 1500 in Paris he joins a club of 1 (Coe) which is something even El Guerrouj couldn't do, and if he wins the 5 he would join a club of 2 (Nurmi/El G). I think if he was somehow able to win again in LA (age 28) and ended up with lifetime PR's in the 3.27.2/3.44.5/7.24.0/12.42 range I would rank him as the greatest ever without having a WR.