Depends. I think that should be everyone’s goal. To work as little as possible and have as much fun with life as they can. just depends on if she’s willing to be a whore to accomplish this.
In my observation, people who focus on "fun" end up not having very much fun at all by mid life because they start realizing they don't have anything, haven't built up anything in their life (including a stable, worthwhile career), and they're often depressed because their life lacks meaning. Furthermore, if you want kids and family, BSing around and ending up with a job that pays 40k/year is going to make things hard for you and your kids. These are real considerations which I don't think my gf has really thought about.
So I've been dating a girl for about 4 months now. She has a lot of good qualities, some being that she is smart and kind and values exercise and fitness. We are both graduate students. However, we were talking recently, and she said one of the reasons she hates graduate school and has no intention of using her degree is that she does not like working and wants to work as little as possible in life. She didn't say the following, but I have also observed that all she seems to really care about is having fun. She doesn't seem to have any real desire to achieve anything, advance her career, get good at a hobby, or anything like that. It's pretty much just all "fun."
What do you guys think about this? I am extremely driven and constantly trying to develop and better myself. I recognize I could probably stand to spend more time trying to just have fun, but the idea of being with someone who doesn't really have anything in their life to invest themselves into and doesn't care doesn't sound very good to me. She also basically has no interest in anything she's doing in graduate school and is just doing it for the credential, which kind of bothers me too. But maybe I shouldn't care? What do you think? We are both ~30 if that matters.
That would have been a deal breaker for me. To be checking out of working hard (at seemingly anything) at what I assume is a relatively young age, is not a good quality. While you might WANT to be a good provider, and it is fine for you to think of yourself in that way, it is yet another thing to go into a possible marriage with someone who is basically saying, "take care of me." You are supposed to be partners in life. Not your job to take care of her, so if you don't want that role, then tell her to pound sand.
OP why are you in grad school at age 30 when the rest of us have been working hard all these years.
academia is incredibly easy compared to actual doing whats being taught. anyone with real ambition would be done with grad school before 30 (doctors, physicists etc). why are you still in grad school so late if you are such a hard worker?
OP why are you in grad school at age 30 when the rest of us have been working hard all these years.
academia is incredibly easy compared to actual doing whats being taught. anyone with real ambition would be done with grad school before 30 (doctors, physicists etc). why are you still in grad school so late if you are such a hard worker?
Hoping this is a 100% troll post because of how ignorant it is, but I'll answer your question. I have bachelor's degrees in STEM fields and worked throughout my 20s. I realized a couple years ago that I wanted to do something more quantitative and demanding and that I needed a graduate degree to do this, so I started going to graduate school while continuing to work full time. I am close to being done now and will make about $150,000/year when I'm done. Current 5k shape is only about 17:30, but that's because I lift weights now and bench about 205. GF is not a super model and has some possible issues as stated. She does have many positive qualities though too.
OP why are you in grad school at age 30 when the rest of us have been working hard all these years.
academia is incredibly easy compared to actual doing whats being taught. anyone with real ambition would be done with grad school before 30 (doctors, physicists etc). why are you still in grad school so late if you are such a hard worker?
Hoping this is a 100% troll post because of how ignorant it is, but I'll answer your question. I have bachelor's degrees in STEM fields and worked throughout my 20s. I realized a couple years ago that I wanted to do something more quantitative and demanding and that I needed a graduate degree to do this, so I started going to graduate school while continuing to work full time. I am close to being done now and will make about $150,000/year when I'm done. Current 5k shape is only about 17:30, but that's because I lift weights now and bench about 205. GF is not a super model and has some possible issues as stated. She does have many positive qualities though too.
Why didn't you do study something more quantitative and demanding when you were in undergrad? Aren't you a HARD WORKER like you claim?
You have a degree in a "STEM FIELD". Sound like you have a QUASI worthless stem degree (like biology or something). What was the degree OP?
If you truly studied something hard and demanding in undergrad you would be making more than 150k by now already (since again, you claim to be such a hard worker). Comp sci undergrads START at 150k plus (most over 200k). Hard working physicists and chemical engineers make a lot after 10 years work experience (and dont need grad degrees unless they want to teach or do research).
Hoping this is a 100% troll post because of how ignorant it is, but I'll answer your question. I have bachelor's degrees in STEM fields and worked throughout my 20s. I realized a couple years ago that I wanted to do something more quantitative and demanding and that I needed a graduate degree to do this, so I started going to graduate school while continuing to work full time. I am close to being done now and will make about $150,000/year when I'm done. Current 5k shape is only about 17:30, but that's because I lift weights now and bench about 205. GF is not a super model and has some possible issues as stated. She does have many positive qualities though too.
Why didn't you do study something more quantitative and demanding when you were in undergrad? Aren't you a HARD WORKER like you claim?
You have a degree in a "STEM FIELD". Sound like you have a QUASI worthless stem degree (like biology or something). What was the degree OP?
If you truly studied something hard and demanding in undergrad you would be making more than 150k by now already (since again, you claim to be such a hard worker). Comp sci undergrads START at 150k plus (most over 200k). Hard working physicists and chemical engineers make a lot after 10 years work experience (and dont need grad degrees unless they want to teach or do research).
Hoping this is a 100% troll post because of how ignorant it is, but I'll answer your question. I have bachelor's degrees in STEM fields and worked throughout my 20s. I realized a couple years ago that I wanted to do something more quantitative and demanding and that I needed a graduate degree to do this, so I started going to graduate school while continuing to work full time. I am close to being done now and will make about $150,000/year when I'm done. Current 5k shape is only about 17:30, but that's because I lift weights now and bench about 205. GF is not a super model and has some possible issues as stated. She does have many positive qualities though too.
Why didn't you do study something more quantitative and demanding when you were in undergrad? Aren't you a HARD WORKER like you claim?
You have a degree in a "STEM FIELD". Sound like you have a QUASI worthless stem degree (like biology or something). What was the degree OP?
If you truly studied something hard and demanding in undergrad you would be making more than 150k by now already (since again, you claim to be such a hard worker). Comp sci undergrads START at 150k plus (most over 200k). Hard working physicists and chemical engineers make a lot after 10 years work experience (and dont need grad degrees unless they want to teach or do research).
Actually, computer science majors start at about a billion dollars per year. Will make around a trillion/year by 30, 100 trillion/year or so by 40 if they work hard.
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