Absolutely, I think there are six to eight athletes capable of breaking 4 this spring including Sherry. I think Sahlman is the most talented but Harrison, Martin, and the Youngs are all in the mix. Would love to see a stacked Brooks mile
Although Aaron said that compared to running alongside Colin in his 1:48 race running alone was trickier for him. He seems younger in his attitude and hopefully next year he will handle adversity better. Lex is a trip- everything for him is just a fun time. Colin is like the elder statesman of the group. Leo, who wasn't there, is a lot like Lex in being happy go lucky.
Hard to say that Sahlman is the most talented in the mile. All we have to go on is Sahlman breaking four indoors and the others slightly behind. But training regimens, peaking, etc., will determine who emerges on top at the end of the season. But of course this is now. What does the future hold? When we look back which of this top group will have accomplished the most? So hard to predict. I wish them all well.
What about Appleford? And I don't care what he's run a dual meet where people run to win so don't look at athletic.net and see what he's run in those. He's a 4:11 miler with lots of big race experience.
They need to find a team with one great distance runner and one great sprinter, bribe them to put their star distance runner on the 1200m leg. Then they'd have someone to run after for 2-3 legs of the race. It is really hard to go after distance records in bad wind all alone.
3:01 equates more to a 1:53/4:10 type runner than a low 4-minute miler.
It's a solid solo effort, but just about the same pace as Young went through 1200 in his mile PR.
I agree that Lex ran a little slower than what many expected him to run. In his 4:04 mile Colin Sahlman took Lex and Leo through about 1200. I didn't watch the race last night but if someone was there maybe they could tell us at what point in the 1200 leg Lex went to the front. That could make some difference in his time, although I would guess that all of them were not sufficiently rested for the race, and that more than anything may have accounted for their performances.
He was at the front after 100m, I thought it was about 15 sec, which is right on pace.
I think 99% of the critics of these high school guys don’t know the difference between running solo vs following, mentally or for drafting. It is very hard to match your PR when running alone. Even if you are having an equally great day physically, which is unlikely. That’s why that other time is your personal best!
Then who ya got on the 800? Neither Doshi or Hector Martinez can run a decent enough 800.
What about Appleford? And I don't care what he's run a dual meet where people run to win so don't look at athletic.net and see what he's run in those. He's a 4:11 miler with lots of big race experience.
I was projecting more for next year. I don't know if NP will run any more relays this season.
Yeah, 53.70 ain’t gonna cut it. That’s a poor leg. Freshman can run that time. Disappointing.
3:01 is awesome.
What happened with the 1:56? Did he run his first 400m in 53.7 because he was amped?
You might be surprised that the 800m on all three relay teams (South Lake 1:56; Jesuit 1:57; and NP 1:56) were the slow legs on those great teams. Jesuit was the first high school team under 10:00.
SL and NP splits are on the first page. Jesuit, whose record NP eclipsed, ran as follows at the 1986 Halden Relays at UC Davis:
Yeah, 53.70 ain’t gonna cut it. That’s a poor leg. Freshman can run that time. Disappointing.
3:01 is awesome.
What happened with the 1:56? Did he run his first 400m in 53.7 because he was amped?
You might be surprised that the 800m on all three relay teams (South Lake 1:56; Jesuit 1:57; and NP 1:56) were the slow legs on those great teams. Jesuit was the first high school team under 10:00.
SL and NP splits are on the first page. Jesuit, whose record NP eclipsed, ran as follows at the 1986 Halden Relays at UC Davis:
Paul Thomas 1:57
Dan Cahill, M. 51
Mark Mastalir 3:00.0
Eric Mastalir 4:07.86
A. Sahlman can take solace knowing that PT ended up being the most successful athlete among those four from Jesuit.
I agree that Lex ran a little slower than what many expected him to run. In his 4:04 mile Colin Sahlman took Lex and Leo through about 1200. I didn't watch the race last night but if someone was there maybe they could tell us at what point in the 1200 leg Lex went to the front. That could make some difference in his time, although I would guess that all of them were not sufficiently rested for the race, and that more than anything may have accounted for their performances.
He was at the front after 100m, I thought it was about 15 sec, which is right on pace.
I think 99% of the critics of these high school guys don’t know the difference between running solo vs following, mentally or for drafting. It is very hard to match your PR when running alone. Even if you are having an equally great day physically, which is unlikely. That’s why that other time is your personal best!
I tend to agree but in Aaron Sahlman's case he was way off- 1:48 best, runs 1:56. For Lex and Colin they were slower but not dramatically so. Who knows all the factors that contributed to Aaron's performance - running alone, some wind, not being fresh and rested. But he seems the most adversely affected by adverse conditions and I think that he's younger, both age wise and maturity wise. Hopefully next year he'll handle these situations better. The Young brothers, by contrast, although also being juniors are very outgoing and have a very optimistic take on everything, so adverse conditions are no biggie. Just another fun experience.
He was at the front after 100m, I thought it was about 15 sec, which is right on pace.
I think 99% of the critics of these high school guys don’t know the difference between running solo vs following, mentally or for drafting. It is very hard to match your PR when running alone. Even if you are having an equally great day physically, which is unlikely. That’s why that other time is your personal best!
I tend to agree but in Aaron Sahlman's case he was way off- 1:48 best, runs 1:56. For Lex and Colin they were slower but not dramatically so. Who knows all the factors that contributed to Aaron's performance - running alone, some wind, not being fresh and rested. But he seems the most adversely affected by adverse conditions and I think that he's younger, both age wise and maturity wise. Hopefully next year he'll handle these situations better. The Young brothers, by contrast, although also being juniors are very outgoing and have a very optimistic take on everything, so adverse conditions are no biggie. Just another fun experience.
It WAS a 1:48- 1:48.91. A truly great HS time, especially an 11th grader. What are his second and 3rd best 800’s ever? I don’t pay for milesplit, so I don’t know, but I suspect he has not been consistent at 1:48 or even 1:51- so expecting him to run like a “1:48 guy” every time is asking a lot at this point in his development.
I tend to agree but in Aaron Sahlman's case he was way off- 1:48 best, runs 1:56. For Lex and Colin they were slower but not dramatically so. Who knows all the factors that contributed to Aaron's performance - running alone, some wind, not being fresh and rested. But he seems the most adversely affected by adverse conditions and I think that he's younger, both age wise and maturity wise. Hopefully next year he'll handle these situations better. The Young brothers, by contrast, although also being juniors are very outgoing and have a very optimistic take on everything, so adverse conditions are no biggie. Just another fun experience.
It WAS a 1:48- 1:48.91. A truly great HS time, especially an 11th grader. What are his second and 3rd best 800’s ever? I don’t pay for milesplit, so I don’t know, but I suspect he has not been consistent at 1:48 or even 1:51- so expecting him to run like a “1:48 guy” every time is asking a lot at this point in his development.
friends don't let friends use milesplit
1:53.03 - 2nd fastest on 1/22/22 1:53.29 - 3rd fastest on 3/13/22
For all the negative post against Newbury Park not one congratulates then for running the fast DMR by a California high school team. To be the fastest ever in California history is doing something great.
But the talk and the hype was about sub 8:26 for 3200m
Thats my reference point on my comment
I see it as just one race and I believe Brosnan has burned the kids out by running so fast early in the season. The good thing is that the track season is long enough for the brothers to rally and run fast at SS, State or one of the post season meets. New Balance has a 2-mile so it would be cool if they went for it there and we won’t have to discuss conversions.