You know this is never going to happen, right? Imagine a woman bothering to file the following police report:
"There was a guy who stared at me too long on the train. I don't know his name or anything about him and I don't have a picture. He was about 30, medium build wearing jeans, a black jacket, and got off at Victoria."
What do you think will the police will do?
This reminds me of when France made it a criminal offence to wolf-whistle at a woman on the street, and people joked that the police would have better things to do than enforce it. Over 700 men were fined for it in the first year alone.
Ok, but a perpetrator must be identified to be charged with a crime. This is going to be very difficult with a random, fleeting encounter on a train.
Its not actually been made illegal, its just encouragement for people to report those who have been making them feel under threat by their behaviour to the London Transport Police, who can investigate, particularly if theres repeat complaints about the same person.
But don't let little facts about the what "being made illegal" actually means get in the way of your diatribe.
A way to help you understand this if you saw somebody constantly hanging around outside your home for no good reason, you would report them to the police, right? If you went out and asked them why they were doing this, and they didn't reply but just stared at you, you would still report them? Or maybe you would shoot them, being that you're American?
Your last paragraph ... if that's how it's handled then that's how it's handled, amiright?
Not against this 'law', but your argument there says this behavior doesn't need to be codified.
Its not actually been made illegal, its just encouragement for people to report those who have been making them feel under threat by their behaviour to the London Transport Police, who can investigate, particularly if theres repeat complaints about the same person.
But don't let little facts about the what "being made illegal" actually means get in the way of your diatribe.
A way to help you understand this if you saw somebody constantly hanging around outside your home for no good reason, you would report them to the police, right? If you went out and asked them why they were doing this, and they didn't reply but just stared at you, you would still report them? Or maybe you would shoot them, being that you're American?
Your last paragraph ... if that's how it's handled then that's how it's handled, amiright?
Not against this 'law', but your argument there says this behavior doesn't need to be codified.
Its not "being codified", its covered by existing laws, both legislative and common law. It clarifies the existing law, based on evidence from recorded crimes that its closely related to more violent incidents. The idea is to make it safer for women to travel on the London Underground due to there being a number of murders of women recently in the London area. Staring inappropriately can be an indication of serious risk, so this makes people more aware of that. It doesn't make staring illegal per se, thats what we have rules of evidence and justice for. Its only when it forms part of a course of criminal conduct which causes harassment.
I'd also like to point out that we have things like CCTV and other people on the Underground, since that doesn't appear to be obvious to some other posters.
Do you really have that low standards of behaviour in the States that this needs such detailed explanation? I've seen this video of a woman walking in New York and the comments that are shouted at her and the number of men that follow her are unbelievable.
I’m a male who is very frequently “checked out” by women almost anywhere I go. At Starbucks, bars, when I randomly pass by women they make and even try to hold eye contact which often becomes uncomfortable - unless of course they are of equally attractive stature (not usually the case). It’s very comforting to know that if I ever deign to visit London again and this happens on the Tube, I will have recourse to hold them criminally accountable. I’m grateful to the London mayor for criminalizing women’s irresistible urge to stare upon my face and physique.
I have to agree, as a Keynesian socialist (you know, the economic approach that gave us unprecedented economic growth last year, as employed by Biden?)
But here's the real irrational "virus" -- shredding classified documents and flushing them down the White House toilet. Every 5-year old knows you're gonna clog that sucker up. And get your ugly fat butt tossed in jail (here's hoping!)
Yes this is accurate because the only difference between flirting and harassment under the exact same actions and words is whether the other party is attracted to you.
casual Friday I wore my Trump hat and it offended some ‘Karen’ so much that she contacted the building manager asking them to invalidate my company’s lease
Back when he was a human rights lawyer, Sadiq Khan’s then-law firm consulted on the defence man who was later convicted of conspiring with the 9/11 attackers.
The metro system mentioned has cameras in every car. So if someone falsely accuses you of staring with mischievous intent it can be refuted or charges thrown out. This is only supposed to be for intense staring or stalking and not just incidental eye contact.
Thank God this is a well defined being set that in no way leaves any room open for interpretation or abuse of power. Now we need to get the thought police involved to root out those thinking sexual harassing thoughts.
Beta males have always tried to enact laws that disadvantage Alpha males. Betas resent Alphas. That's just the way nature has worked since the Dawn of Man when the first Alpha power punched the first Beta.
As societies like America become more and more Beta-ish, there will eventually be push back by females on societies' rules and norms because the supply of Alpha males will become significantly lower than female demand for Alphas.
It’s another example of a crime in which an infraction is defined not by actual rules, but by the feelings of the victim. I mean, what is staring? It could be almost anything. It depends entirely on what the woman thinks. What is the rule? Nobody actually knows, and that’s the point.
I made a custom shirt that said the above message and a couple lefties were trigged AF, lashing out at me in their unusual unintelligible , irrational and emotional outbursts.
I'd love to buy one of your tee shirts. Liberalism is imprisoning all of us, and destroying freedom.
