What's the next great high altitude town for year around living/training?

Oregon voted blue in every election since 1988.... The east side of Oregon is mostly Republicans, and the big cities closer to the coast like Portland and Eugene are blue. But it's like that in every state basically.

Mags, bro.

Running Cult Member wrote:

summit park wrote:

Did you miss the part about too expensive?

More than Boulder? At any rate, in case you didn't notice I already discounted my own suggestion. The answer to the OP exists only in fantasy. Top runners aren't going to flock to unsafe locales in Mexico or South America, either.

I’ve never lived in Boulder, but I can tell you that I purchased a 3/2 house (2500sq ft ) in 2017 for $800k. I just sold it in august for $1.7m.

Many of the lifties and resort workers can’t even afford to live here in Park City.

Swoosh!! wrote:

Jemez1 wrote:

I am an hour from Mexico City airport. Living and training my athletes at 3100m (10,100ft.) No snow, not too cold, great trails, track 30 minutes away at 2200m (7200 ft.).

Cost: apartment and lots of natural great food and juices, $450 month!!!

I'd like that place, does it have a name??

Yes: Zihuatanejo.

Where the beer flows like wine and women flock like the salmon of Capistrano.

I visited Albuquerque last winter and checked out a few houses. My impression is it's ghetto. What's up with all the gated communities? It makes you feel like it's unsafe to live there. You have to live in a gated community that costs at least $100,000 more to get a nice house and space. It's stupid. You go to neighboring AZ or CO (anywhere) and it's clean, pretty, and you can go out the door and feel safe to run.

the correct answer wrote:

Former ski bum wrote:

The OR poster asked for cheap places not for the usual rich peoples hang out.

I’ve lived in one and visited the other, I didn’t think they were expensive. Certainly not Ketchum/Hailey.

Lol

Jerry Maguire wrote:

southwest bound wrote:

Here are a few options.

Raton NM – 6,700

Las Vegas NM – 6,400

Silver City NM – 5,900

Cedar City UT – 5,800 (St George is only 45 minutes away at 2,700 and rarely has snow)

I love New Mexico.

But you managed to list the worst places in the state. Raton and Las Vegas…. These places are sh*t Holes.

Albuquerque NM is the best altitude location in the US to live and train year round. Easily has the best weather of any altitude location.

The winters are mild and nothing compared to Flagstaff or Boulder.

Actually a city with low cost of living.

Endless Trails in the foothills at 6200ft +. Rive bike path is pancake flat at 4500ft 14 mile long point to point.

Tons of dirt roads on the outskirts.

Big Bear seems to small, unless you drive down, which os doable

Bosque's at 5000 feet, not 4500.

balanced budget wrote:

+1 to Pocatello Idaho being a great option. Not super high elevation so you can still get quality work done.

If you’re going off OPs criteria it doesn’t have great weather.

2.5 hours to SLC would be isolated to me.

idjogger wrote:

balanced budget wrote:

+1 to Pocatello Idaho being a great option. Not super high elevation so you can still get quality work done.

If you’re going off OPs criteria it doesn’t have great weather.

2.5 hours to SLC would be isolated to me.

Pocatello……No.

The first place mentioned in the thread is the right answer, Big Bear, CA….especially if you can work remotely.

Buy the house and rent the other 2 units for 2k per month.

Monticello Utah

https://www.trulia.com/p/ut/la-sal/30-e-deer-creek-rd-la-sal-ut-84530--2487579378?mid=2#lil-mediaTab

Former ski bum wrote:

bannned i got wrote:

Salida colorado, 7083

Flat, lots of hills right outside of town, perfect yr round weather, lots of your douchie needed hipster night life for you and a nice 2 yr old resurfaced track.

Salida is nice but also way overpriced.

This is the cheapest house there right now.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1040-H-St-Salida-CO-81201/96848974_zpid/

Please, this is less expensive and way better:

Quenton Cassidy in Denton's cabin in the woods style!

You also missed this one, way better than Pre's place in Eugene!

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/629-Vine-St_Salida_CO_81201_M17836-26837

Gary, IN

High altitude training and living is overrated. Honestly, most elites do it because these towns are generally remote or secluded enough from nearby big cities, and it makes systenmatic doping easier to get away with. The popular towns are also better monied, and in turn they're often better connected to drug pipelines.

Think about why a town that checks all the OP's boxes like Cedar City, UT or Albuquerque hasn't taken off.

I guess the question would be, is altitude really the limiting factor in your athletic development? It wouldn't be for me. I am a fairly good runner but not great, (my goals are closer to OTQ than BQ) and I feel like I have a million things I could improve on right here in my little town. Once I max out all of those things, then I might consider a move.

the biggest limit in most peoples athletic performance is time. If I just made more time for the sport I am sure that I could improve quite a bit. You gotta ask yourself, are you going to improve more from living at altitude, or will you improve more from getting in the Gym 3 days a week? Or will you improve more from just running 10 more miles a week? WHat about 5 more hours of sleep a week? There are a ton of ways to improve that don't require going full-Quentin Cassidy.

Also, who are you that you require the whole "live high train low" set up? Are you faster than NAU guys? as far as I can tell they do all of their work in Flag, and their multiple mid-D national champs (1500/mile/5k) would tell you that you don't need to rip these incredible sea level workouts.

This is a typical confusion on this website's message board: OP asks about something related to or led by elites and respondents devolve the conversation into criteria that fit their pedestrian wants and needs. Rather than try to put themselves in the shoes of someone who has the talent and luxury to earn their entire income through their own running they instead imagine that type of person in their own proverbial shoes. It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad and typical.

Someone said Island Park, ID. It’d be a fun summer, but you’d probably need a job you can do remotely and you’d want to double check your Internet and cell coverage before picking a place. It’s a sprawling fly fishing / hunting / snowmobiling cabin community in the mountains.

You could reasonably train there maybe half the year, the rest the area is under a few feet of snow. You’d also probably be well advised want to run with bear spray. That obviously isn’t for everyone, but they’ve been having a bear attack almost every year in the area lately. The Yellowstone bear population is growing and spreading out. Wolves too, for that matter.

It’d be a bit if a drive to get a drop in elevation to a small town with a track for workouts.

But like I said, it would be a lot of fun if that’s your thing. It’s generally the opposite side of the tetons from Jackson and has a much more conservative vibe. More camo and less Patagonia.

If you are truly elite you don't need to ask this question because you are a member of a pro team that will work out the details and the cost won't be that much of an issue. Do you think Grant Fisher is trying to figure out where the next undiscovered town for training is? It's the sub-elites without contracts or trying to make the trials that are searching for lower cost options. Besides, this conversation is purely for entertainment purposes. You are the only one taking it seriously.