Colin Powell Dies of COVID

Flagpole wrote:

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

He didn't die because he was vaccinated. He died because you weren't.

That is a fair statement.

Sometimes you forget how dumb leftists are. Then they remind you.

Flagpole wrote:

Dew wrote:

Always fair?

ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT!

Nope. CORRECT!

Actually it is incorrect because you treat people unfairly, based on your opinion.

Flagpole wrote:

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

He didn't die because he was vaccinated. He died because you weren't.

That is a fair statement.

See how you are unfair?

And how Kobbs is an idiot like you?

Maybe one of you was responsible for someone else's death because you self-righteous covidiots keep forgetting that even vaccinated we can catch and transmit the virus.

Science is the CDC - are they perfect - no, they are made up of humans - but they are the best science we have on recommendations

But you, and you alone with your brilliance and insight into pharma have figured it out! Why didn’t I trust some loser runner from the beginning? What was I thinking

Powell had multiple myeloma...a cancer that limits your body's ability to make antibodies. So it doesn't really matter if he was vaxxed or not, the shot likely had little effect.

It must be said that nobody would ever say a person with multiple myeloma died of the flu. You'd say they died of cancer. Only with Covid do we assign the cause of death to the respiratory illness, not the cancer that ravaged the immune system that enabled the respiratory illness to become fatal.

Dumb ass. This isn’t left or right. This is those that believe in science and those that don’t - I’m not left, or right for that matter. But do I believe in science

Charles Bukowski wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

That is a fair statement.

Sometimes you forget how dumb leftists are. Then they remind you.

hrunner2 wrote:

Dumb ass. This isn’t left or right. This is those that believe in science and those that don’t - I’m not left, or right for that matter. But do I believe in science

Charles Bukowski wrote:

Sometimes you forget how dumb leftists are. Then they remind you.

You don’t even have to believe anything. Just have to be able to use the critical thinking part of the brain that millions of years of evolution gifted us - some people just choose not to.

e65ue5 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

That is a fair statement.

See how you are unfair?

And how Kobbs is an idiot like you?

Maybe one of you was responsible for someone else's death because you self-righteous covidiots keep forgetting that even vaccinated we can catch and transmit the virus.

We can only do what we can to help ourselves and our fellow humans. Vaccinated individuals are MUCH less likely to contract and spread COVID than vaccinated people. I still wear a mask inside of buildings, and I do that to protect those who are not vaccinated in case I have a breakthrough case.

DeSantis the GOAT wrote:

Powell had multiple myeloma...a cancer that limits your body's ability to make antibodies. So it doesn't really matter if he was vaxxed or not, the shot likely had little effect.

It must be said that nobody would ever say a person with multiple myeloma died of the flu. You'd say they died of cancer. Only with Covid do we assign the cause of death to the respiratory illness, not the cancer that ravaged the immune system that enabled the respiratory illness to become fatal.

What does the death certificate state? They're able to put down the contributing causes.

DeSantis the GOAT wrote:

Powell had multiple myeloma...a cancer that limits your body's ability to make antibodies. So it doesn't really matter if he was vaxxed or not, the shot likely had little effect.

It must be said that nobody would ever say a person with multiple myeloma died of the flu. You'd say they died of cancer. Only with Covid do we assign the cause of death to the respiratory illness, not the cancer that ravaged the immune system that enabled the respiratory illness to become fatal.

1) You are correct about how it really doesn't matter than he was vaccinated. He was susceptible to all kinds of things with that cancer.

2) I disagree with your last paragraph. Respiratory illnesses (like pneumonia) are commonly listed as the cause of death even though the reason it caused the death was due to the body being ravaged by cancer or the treatment for the cancer or some other illness or situation (elderly person breaks a hip and is now immobile, leading to bed sores and pneumonia).

Yet another of the 90+% who die WITH covid, not OF it.

Flagpole wrote:

e65ue5 wrote:

See how you are unfair?

And how Kobbs is an idiot like you?

Maybe one of you was responsible for someone else's death because you self-righteous covidiots keep forgetting that even vaccinated we can catch and transmit the virus.

We can only do what we can to help ourselves and our fellow humans. Vaccinated individuals are MUCH less likely to contract and spread COVID than vaccinated people. I still wear a mask inside of buildings, and I do that to protect those who are not vaccinated in case I have a breakthrough case.

That's "than UNvaccinated people".

Flagpole wrote:

I still wear a mask inside of buildings, and I do that to protect those who are not vaccinated in case I have a breakthrough case.

Bwhahahaahahahahahaaeheehaehaeaehaeheahaeaehaeh!

Uprising wrote:

Yet another of the 90+% who die WITH covid, not OF it.

Meh. He still died of COVID, but he WOULD have died soon either of some other respiratory illness or the cancer itself had he not contracted COVID. In his case, the COVID didn't rob him of a lot of time left to live.

Flagpole is still here? As a teenager I checked in here daily. Now every few years, I’ll stop by to check out the boards when I am really bored. Says something that anyone besides robert and Weldon have continually posted here over years and years and years

Flagpole wrote:

2) I disagree with your last paragraph. Respiratory illnesses (like pneumonia) are commonly listed as the cause of death even though the reason it caused the death was due to the body being ravaged by cancer or the treatment for the cancer or some other illness or situation (elderly person breaks a hip and is now immobile, leading to bed sores and pneumonia).

Perhaps in the formal paperwork, but the headline would never be "Powell Dies of Flu." The common understanding would be that cancer killed him, not an opportunistic virus.

DeSantis the GOAT wrote:

It must be said that nobody would ever say a person with multiple myeloma died of the flu. You'd say they died of cancer. Only with Covid do we assign the cause of death to the respiratory illness, not the cancer that ravaged the immune system that enabled the respiratory illness to become fatal.

This just isn't true. I see infectious illness ultimately kill immunocompromised patients all the time. The infectious illness is the cause of death in these cases. You can be an MM patient who died of influenza or an MM patient who died of COVID or an HIV patient who died of pneumonia. In all cases, the thing that actually killed you is the cause of death. The underlying immunocompromising condition is an important part of your medical history, but I can't say I've ever heard anyone claim that MM killed a patient who died of influenza.

hrunner2 wrote:

Flagpole is still here? As a teenager I checked in here daily. Now every few years, I’ll stop by to check out the boards when I am really bored. Says something that anyone besides robert and Weldon have continually posted here over years and years and years

I am a real lifelong fan of running. Many who post here or posted here either aren't or will not be.

DeSantis the GOAT wrote:

Powell had multiple myeloma...a cancer that limits your body's ability to make antibodies. So it doesn't really matter if he was vaxxed or not, the shot likely had little effect.

It must be said that nobody would ever say a person with multiple myeloma died of the flu. You'd say they died of cancer. Only with Covid do we assign the cause of death to the respiratory illness, not the cancer that ravaged the immune system that enabled the respiratory illness to become fatal.

This is accurate. With Multiple Myeloma he had a definite period of life left - max 18 months from diagnosis. Probably less because of his age. The only uncertainty was that something was going to come along and kill him, soon. It turned out to be COVID because it' s the worst thing curculating for blood cancer victims.

There's also a very good chance the only reason he survived until now, instead of dying in March, was the vaccine. For families of MM sufferers, those 7 months make a huge difference.