Old people: is the world crazier now than it used to be?

+1

And FWIW, I have largely felt your opinions on these things, as seen on Trump thread or Biden thread, have been absolutely spot on. And I appreciate that, once again,

The future is vegan. Save the planet and go vegan.

Maybe the Amish got it right after all.

I don't ever remember a president who lost saying he won because the voting was rigged(when bush won it was different).

I don't remember Americans attacking the capital to stop certification of the vote.

I don't remember this many people believing crazy stuff.

We are in trouble.

[quote]memo 618.. wrote:

I don't ever remember a president who lost saying he won because the voting was rigged(when bush won it was different).

You don't remember the Dems claiming the Russians stole the 2016 election for Trump?

They are still saying it

The Unkle wrote:

[quote]memo 618.. wrote:

I don't ever remember a president who lost saying he won because the voting was rigged(when bush won it was different).

You don't remember the Dems claiming the Russians stole the 2016 election for Trump?

They are still saying it

Isn't that special!

A dimwitted attempt to support Trump by recalling his history of Russian involvement in domestic political issues,

Keep up the good work.

memo 618.. wrote:

I don't ever remember a president who lost saying he won because the voting was rigged(when bush won it was different).

I don't remember Americans attacking the capital to stop certification of the vote.

I don't remember this many people believing crazy stuff.

We are in trouble.

the first non-peaceful transition of power in the history of the United States of America.

And instead of pitching Trump out for his crimes, he is worshipped by his voters and supported almost unanimously by his party.

Honestly, we don't deserve democracy if this is how we act. We deserve a far worse form of government and that is what we'll get.

Brandon Walsh wrote:

Democrat sponsored attacks on family values and Christianity is the root cause of the divisiveness. Democrats despise Christians and anyone promoting family values.

This. Add on the attack on traditional notions of masculinity and femininity, sex roles and morality with a dash of hedonism and you've got a deeply neurotic and confused society.

agip wrote:

memo 618.. wrote:

I don't ever remember a president who lost saying he won because the voting was rigged(when bush won it was different).

I don't remember Americans attacking the capital to stop certification of the vote.

I don't remember this many people believing crazy stuff.

We are in trouble.

the first non-peaceful transition of power in the history of the United States of America.

And instead of pitching Trump out for his crimes, he is worshipped by his voters and supported almost unanimously by his party.

Honestly, we don't deserve democracy if this is how we act. We deserve a far worse form of government and that is what we'll get.

What were his crimes, again?

For better or worse, change is inevitable, and the next generation makes the world seem a strange place. Horace, 20BC said, "Our sires age was worse than our grandsires. We, their sons, are more worthless than they, so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more corrupt."

In my mid-eighties and yes, I have some concerns. In my family we were brought up to be polite, hard-working, reasonable and courteous in conversation, respectful of elders, and hospitable and helpful to others. And that in a military family.

I don't have time--or the naivete-- to make a case for or against the current state of any of those preceding qualities I was exposed to as an American kid.

Things have changed and the outlook for the future of our kind is dismal by any measure.

So, Skip to something I am informed that old folks like me shouldn't be saying.

You want constructive, remedial suggestions, not sage advice from an "old f*rt* without the gumption to spell a perfectly fine four-letter word.

1. Millenials: you all, and your younger cohort, regardless of party or religion, ought to go on a mass baby strike: make no more until we old rich white f*rts, local, state, federal and world leaders take immediate and concrete action to curtail climate change, get and enforce vaccines to all people regardless of country or caste.

2. Boycott all industries that produce unsustainable machines and products that produce pollutants and poisons.

3.Youth revolt: regardless of the Great White Fathers in politics/religion/ industry you need to put out a mandate with demonstrable evidence of bona fide meaningful intent (examples) that it is YOUR world we selfish greedy power mongering Old F*rts have and continue to decimate.

4. Young People's Truth Movement: regardless of party, religion, color or caste, you ought to exercise your true power! Bring no more babies into the world until your demands are satisfied in a demonstrable, concrete and conformable form.

Old F*rt who cares.

seattle prattle wrote: And what is so obvious is that conservatives have been quite prone to embrace misconceptions. I mean, is it not the elephant in the room?

For god's sake, it is high time we called it for what it is.

+1, starting with conservatives' belief in a god. The #1 all time misconception / conspiracy theory / flat out lie / whatever you want to call it. When conservatives' entire worldview is based on an evidence-free belief in a mythical being that created and controls the universe, then what hope is there for them shedding more mundane, easily disproved misconceptions like "climate change isn't real" or "covid is just a bad cold"?

memo 618.. wrote:

I don't ever remember a president who lost saying he won because the voting was rigged(when bush won it was different).

I don't remember Americans attacking the capital to stop certification of the vote.

I don't remember this many people believing crazy stuff.

We are in trouble.

Do you ever remember a President and VP who are both 100% clueless and useless fvcks?

Welcome to 2021

Godless Liberal wrote:

seattle prattle wrote: And what is so obvious is that conservatives have been quite prone to embrace misconceptions. I mean, is it not the elephant in the room?

For god's sake, it is high time we called it for what it is.

+1, starting with conservatives' belief in a god. The #1 all time misconception / conspiracy theory / flat out lie / whatever you want to call it. When conservatives' entire worldview is based on an evidence-free belief in a mythical being that created and controls the universe, then what hope is there for them shedding more mundane, easily disproved misconceptions like "climate change isn't real" or "covid is just a bad cold"?

Typically lib. Everyone that disagrees with my views is a crazy whackadoodle.

Loser

Let it Rupp wrote:

agip wrote:

the first non-peaceful transition of power in the history of the United States of America.

And instead of pitching Trump out for his crimes, he is worshipped by his voters and supported almost unanimously by his party.

Honestly, we don't deserve democracy if this is how we act. We deserve a far worse form of government and that is what we'll get.

What were his crimes, again?

you know as well as I do that I could list 10 crimes by Trump and you wouldn't care.

So I don't wish to go down that useless road. Unless somehow, someway, you prove to me that you are sincere in your desire to get the facts straight. And even then it's a maybe.

agip wrote:

Let it Rupp wrote:

What were his crimes, again?

you know as well as I do that I could list 10 crimes by Trump and you wouldn't care.

So I don't wish to go down that useless road. Unless somehow, someway, you prove to me that you are sincere in your desire to get the facts straight. And even then it's a maybe.

You should call the police and report him, then.

Let it Rupp wrote:

agip wrote:

you know as well as I do that I could list 10 crimes by Trump and you wouldn't care.

So I don't wish to go down that useless road. Unless somehow, someway, you prove to me that you are sincere in your desire to get the facts straight. And even then it's a maybe.

You should call the police and report him, then.

you aren't aware that Trump and the Trump Org are under criminal and civil investigations on multiple fronts?

How do you not know that? ??????

Let it Rupp wrote:

agip wrote:

you know as well as I do that I could list 10 crimes by Trump and you wouldn't care.

So I don't wish to go down that useless road. Unless somehow, someway, you prove to me that you are sincere in your desire to get the facts straight. And even then it's a maybe.

You should call the police and report him, then.

Fellahs, hold your dime. I think somebody may have already made the call:

Let it Rupp wrote:

Brandon Walsh wrote:

Democrat sponsored attacks on family values and Christianity is the root cause of the divisiveness. Democrats despise Christians and anyone promoting family values.

This. Add on the attack on traditional notions of masculinity and femininity, sex roles and morality with a dash of hedonism and you've got a deeply neurotic and confused society.

Correct. Democrats have declared war on masculinity and Christian based family values. Look at the beta, effeminate “males” in the Biden administration. What a collection of wimps and sissies!