Getting a date is extremely tough, and getting a long-term relationship is pretty much impossible

jamin only likes girls who are a 10. He goes on and and on about these fantasy women. So all the advice on this thread just flies over his head. He's not interested.

It’s not blue pill or red pill. You use that terminology to make it seem like you’ve “ascended” or “woken up” when really you are the one living under a rock.

75% of the girls I’ve dated have been more physically attractive than me. I’m more successful than you have been or ever will be (if you don’t change) in the dating world because I don’t view women as objects, I view them as human beings.

Trust me, I know a thing or two about female vs male nature. They behave differently in a lot of ways. That doesn’t mean you demonize them or throw yourself a pity party. It means you learn to overcome it and stop throwing a “woe is me” party with you and your antisocial friends.

Learn to be genuinely kind, make yourself interesting through developing hobbies other than letsrun, clean up your hygiene, and practice on your comedy/ general social interaction skills and I guarantee you’ll find success.

Helps if you have an enormous schlong. The Only metric that counts.

Oh...so you know a "thing or two about female vs male nature" because you say so on an anonymous discussion forum. Lol. You say 75% of the girls you've dated are more physically attractive than you? Well...maybe your looks are rated at 4 or 5 and you've dated women that are rated a 6 or so. But that doesn't mean you're dating really hot women, i.e., 8s, 9s & 10s.

It tough for guys to understand the blue pill, black pill, etc. concepts unless you've become educated in that area. I was always in denial living my dating life in the "blue pill" spectrum until I got educated from "Wheat Waffle's" videos. Everything he presents is based on scientific research with studies he has linked. I've had friends of mine argue with me until they've seen the videos where they were humbled & realized the harsh reality that everything is about a man's looks when it comes to dating attractive women.

You need some education in this:

Blue pill? Black pill?

Good lord! No wonder so many guys on here can't get a date. Losers beyond belief.

Durrrr , in sell chuds suck huehuehue! What looooosers right guys? Huehuehue

It’s revolting, the whole ideology, the terminology, the obsession, but let’s be real they’re onto something. There are some people out there who are truly starting the race several miles behind the starting line.

calfshrug wrote:

It’s revolting, the whole ideology, the terminology, the obsession, but let’s be real they’re onto something. There are some people out there who are truly starting the race several miles behind the starting line.

I was under the impression that the whole incel thing was just guys refusing to pursue women in their league, while also refusing to make themselves more desirable. Is there more to it than that?

it isn’t one thing. I consider myself to have a lot in common with those people, so I can attest that the ideology draws from people cashing in on the herd, to people with physical or mental disabilities, to angry depressed people, to chilled out depressed people, to intellectual people with harrowing past experience(s), to angry racist white misogynist right wingers. Sam Heck even guys like this one here in the video espoused views that, if uttered today by someone less pleasing to the eyes and ears and less foreign looking, would be considered of the “in sell” ilk-

https://youtu.be/Eqp9jKDQDaY

Good post.

There are a lot of fast female runners out there, too. In Columbus, at least several hundred women, including those in the exclusive track clubs and things like racing clubs, are 3:15 or better....women are fast nowadays!

It's a tough world but you have to take the initiative to make yourself better.

I'm engaged but it was a very enlightening video. Height is a thing for real for most blue-pillers, although my g/f is slightly taller than me and it's not an issue.

Swaglord_the_realest_1 wrote:

Also seeing it from the girl's side. Yes any girl who's 7+ can get time with a "top tier" dude, but low chance he's gonna wife her up. So the smart ones aren't gonna waste their time getting pumped and dumped.

On the other hand, since a 7+ can spend time with many "top tier" dudes and also date plenty of guys in her own range... why the heck is she gonna spend time with a 6 guy?

6 guy - few quality social connections, average shape, average hygeine, average athletics (beer league basketball etc), job where he doesn't make enough money to be able to do what he wants in the world (nothing crazy, but being able to travel on a whim, etc). Average social skills, kinda funny but not really that much.

Interestingly the divorce rate is higher for women with graduate degrees and those with great jobs, I've read in the past. Maybe men feel threatened by powerful women nowadays? I know a woman in my running group who is the U.S. military. She's got a doctorate and is a nurse prac--but is single and can't get a guy, even though she has a great personality (albeit abrasive sometimes).

calfshrug wrote:

It’s revolting, the whole ideology, the terminology, the obsession, but let’s be real they’re onto something. There are some people out there who are truly starting the race several miles behind the starting line.

I don't think the blue/black/red pill thing is really that new of an idea. I see it more of a social class construct.

Women in the professional world, like white-collar jobs, won't date guys with no $ or lower-paid jobs, etc. They want to marry someone equal to them or higher in terms of societal expectation and pay.

Real Obvi wrote:

Blue pill? Black pill?

Good lord! No wonder so many guys on here can't get a date. Losers beyond belief.

For the umpteenth time, I'm talking about getting dates with attractive women not women in general. Women have ranked me in the looks category as a "5" - pretty average. I have a crooked nose from my old boxing days and my jawline isn't the best. Of course, I could pursue plastic surgery and improve my looks to maybe a "7." Though I non-competitively bodybuild & have a muscular physique, at 5-6 (barely), I'm considered a "manlet" by attractive women. I've had no trouble dating unattractive women over the years. I just had a couple of dates last month with a very unattractive, overweight girl that I met at the gym. She's a couple of inches taller than me but thinks I'm a "cute little guy." Lol. On our dates, the conversation was good and she's got a great personality but I'm just not sexually attracted to her - so what's the point of dating a women if there's no intimacy? I can just be friends with her & just talk to her at the gym - I don't need to spend my dough on her on dates that lead to a dead end with intimacy.

It's the attractive women (8s, 9s & 10s) that I have no luck with. They either outright reject me or in some cases, feeling sorry for me they "friendzone" me. Lol. But this is black pill reality when I'm only a "5" expecting to land attractive women. These hot women are "spoiled by choice" as they have so many attractive "Chads" after them that they're are not going to give any consideration in dating "average" looking dudes. There's also a shortage of women where men outnumber women in most age demographics under 50 these days.

Here's a good example of what I'm talking about. Here's average looking short dude on a game show that was rejected by the vast majority of the attractive women. Look how devastated the poor lad is! This is black pill reality - not an easy pill to swallow! 😞

My man is dressed like he’s heading to the year 7 disco

If the title of this thread is true then either lower your standards or put yourself out there more. By the way, dating apps do not reflect reality because only like the top 5% of men get all the attention on those and it does not reflect real life dating. Any guy has a shot with hot women with a little confidence and swagger.

God damn do you all know how stupid you sound like with this 'pill' nonsense? No wonder you're not getting any.

Because dating nowadays is very optional. When something is optional, you have much a much higher set of expecations to be satisfied in order for you to opt-in.

The high set of expecations is a result of people nowadays

* Having bigger egos, carefully crafted self-images to maintain (e.g. Instagram)

* Having unlimted, perhaps overwhelming, sources of personal entertainment (e.g. Youtube)

* Being able to satisfy somewhat the natural sexual urges through technology (e.g. vibrators, porn)

* Etc.

jecht wrote:

Women in the professional world, like white-collar jobs, won't date guys with no $ or lower-paid jobs, etc.

That's mythology invented to keep ugly guys motivated to earn money.

Educated, career-successful ladies, for the most part, want good-looking, socially adpet guys, for Instagram Likes, good genetics for their babies, to make for an attractive couple at her Fortune 500 company's annual Christmas Party at the Ritz hotel. The guy only needs to be in roughly the same social class.