From GOLD to 14th - has any Olympic 1500 winner placed lower than Centro in a follow-up games?

OP, you're just salty.

Centro is an Olympic gold medalist and should be CELEBRATED. What's with you?

This thread should be taken down.

Centro has as many 1500m Olympic titles as El G... food for thought.

I can't imagine the delusion require to insinuate that an Olympic champion is a "never was."

OP's a "never-was". Another way to look at the results so far is to review the semi summary here:

https://www.worldathletics.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxii-olympic-games-athletics-7132391/results/men/1500-metres/semi-final/summary

He was a spec over 2 seconds slower than the no 1 position. Count that out in your head while you're sitting in your Mom's basement.

"Has-been or Never-Was? "

I'll take door number 3, Monty...

"Many runners retire after a gold?"

Except the many that don't.

Did you watch the race? Blistering OR pace - Centro mixed it up and paid the price.

Hocker qualified, but had to run the race of life to do it. While practically DOA at the Semi2 finish, Centro's time was still better.

return to index wrote:

OP, you're just salty.

Centro is an Olympic gold medalist and should be CELEBRATED. What's with you?

Amen. If there's a loser here, it's not Centro.

has-been, or never-was? wrote:

Hey Siri wrote:

In 1956 Josy Barthel came in as the defending champ and finished second last in his semi-final.

LOL DUDE GOES BACK TO 1956!!!!!

This thread is chock full of examples of guys who won gold and didn’t make it as far as Centro the next games you absolute buffoon.

Again, thread’s a joke. Going back to 1980, here’s a list of guys who made the 1500 final the cycle after winning gold:

Cacho (silver), Makh (silver), Kiprop (DFL in final), Coe (gold ‘80, ‘84, didn’t make the team in ‘88)

Here’s the list of guys who did not make the final:

El G (retired), Ngeny (failed to make the team), Morceli (DFL in semis), Peter Rono (“never won another major race” per Wikipedia…no idea what’s up with that)

Centro squarely in the middle, and he was older than all the guys who repeated for medals were in their second medal winning performance.

Centro is definitely one of the most polarizing 1500m runners ever.

He is hated for the same things that he's loved for:

1) Squeezing truly a lot out of comparably mediocre talent.

2) Winning the most unusual and flukiest Olympic race ever.

3) Being associated with some really shady athletes and coaches, yet always staying out of trouble.

4) Getting in feuds with college kids, yet maintaining swagger.

5) Racing too rarely, yet peaking at the right times.

He had quite a respectable career and deserves praise, but it's hard to give it to him because of his extremely annoying and unrealistic fanboys.

Bro, Centro had a bad day at the office but he can smoke a fat one tonight knowing that he’s been an Oly Champ... don’t matter that he bombed out this time. Dude been, done it and got the medal.

Oly finals can be weird races - remember the German dude who won the 800m final in 1:45 in Sidney - think his name was Adolf Schulz or summin.

Vancomycin wrote:

the US's best 1500m runner in > 100 years.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Assuming that was a joke, congrats on getting a laugh.

return to index wrote:

This thread should be taken down.

Hahaha. If you don't like a message, just CANCEL IT?

Sad.

bad premise wrote:

Again, thread’s a joke. Going back to 1980, here’s a list of guys who made the 1500 final the cycle after winning gold:

Cacho (silver), Makh (silver), Kiprop (DFL in final), Coe (gold ‘80, ‘84, didn’t make the team in ‘88)

Here’s the list of guys who did not make the final:

El G (retired), Ngeny (failed to make the team), Morceli (DFL in semis), Peter Rono

You are making my point for me.

Most gold medalists either came back for more medals, or knew when to stop.

Not making finals in a follow-up games is unique AS I SAID IN THE ORIGINAL POST. Morceli is the ONLY OTHER, apparently. THANKS FOR PROVING THAT.

Sopa de Sabadell wrote:

2) Winning the most unusual and flukiest Olympic race ever.

3) Being associated with some really shady athletes and coaches

4) Getting in feuds with college kids

People love these things?

roll another fat one wrote:

Oly finals can be weird races - remember the German dude who won the 800m final in 1:45 in Sidney - think his name was Adolf Schulz or summin.

Thanks for accidentally supporting my point.

"Nils Schumann" won the 2000 Olympic 800 in 1:45. And in 2021 his name apparently isn't remembered on a site for die-hard fans.

Centro = Cacho without a follow-up medal. Or Schumman is a good comparison because like Centro he kept running and didn't do much more.

Consistently around, consistently not winning on the world stage, consistently not running remarkable times, but fluked out x1 in a slow race at the games.

How many people are calling Cacho and Schumman "top 5-10 all-time"?

has-been, or never-was? wrote:

the US's best 1500m runner in > 100 years.

I said no fanboy babbling, just answer the question in the original post.

Now fanboys are calling Centro the GOAT.

It's been fun triggering some of you with cold hard facts. Bye!

has-been, or never-was? wrote:

bad premise wrote:

Again, thread’s a joke. Going back to 1980, here’s a list of guys who made the 1500 final the cycle after winning gold:

Cacho (silver), Makh (silver), Kiprop (DFL in final), Coe (gold ‘80, ‘84, didn’t make the team in ‘88)

Here’s the list of guys who did not make the final:

El G (retired), Ngeny (failed to make the team), Morceli (DFL in semis), Peter Rono

You are making my point for me.

Most gold medalists either came back for more medals, or knew when to stop.

Not making finals in a follow-up games is unique AS I SAID IN THE ORIGINAL POST. Morceli is the ONLY OTHER, apparently. THANKS FOR PROVING THAT.

Ngeny and Coe didn’t “know when to stop” — they ran in their trials the olympics after their final 1500 golds and didn’t make their respective nations’ Olympic teams (Coe failed to qualify in the ‘88 British trials). I can’t find any info on Rono, but El G is the only one who seems to have gone straight into retirement after his gold.

So 4/8 of the last 30 years of 1500 winners didn’t contend the following Olympic cycle. Hell, 5/8 if you count Coe, who tried and failed to qualify for the British team in ‘88 — at age 31, the same age as Centro now. 4/8 made the final following their golds (inc. younger Coe in his back to backs) — all of them were younger than Centro is now.

So yeah Centro’s performance in the games after his gold is definitely the worst if you exclude all the gold medalists who did worse than him after their golds, and squarely average amongst the gold medalists if you actually look at all of them.