I guess it leaves room for my boy Matt Boling to make the team
I guess it leaves room for my boy Matt Boling to make the team
Are they out there? wrote:
What could an athlete do in a 45-59 minute window to disrupt the test if the tester was to call?
If the answer is nothing then why don't they call.
If the answer is they can do something to disrupt then what stops the athlete from hearing the first knock at 7:01AM and doing 'cover-up' things then opening their door at 7:59AM claiming they were asleep.
As an example (and there are other reasons), there are sophisticated devices where they can heat the urine to near precise human body temperature, and it may be your urine from a clean cycle that has been preserved, which even when watched closely are almost indistinguishable from the human body. So it runs from a small pouch you may have concealed on your person, via a tiny tube that then a man would conceal with their hand placement. The fluid flows out close to where it normally would. Yes they are meant to watch you closely but they often don't stare at the underneath of peoples private parts.
If the tester shows up unannounced as it should be, the athlete should not have time to prepare and set this up. It would simply be hi we're here, then come with me. If they have an hour to prepare, they know the testers are on the way, they will have time. Testing, true testing is 100% meant to be unannounced. There should never be phone calls.
Aside from anything else he should have been there for the full hour. It is one hour a day. Yes it is annoying. But it was his job.
It is an interesting area. I used to know the head of an anti-doping organisation. Believe me, he was truly trying to eradicate cheating as best he could.
PS this information may be outdated, they may well have introduced something to eliminate this hopefully by now. But is an example of why warning (in the past) was not a good idea.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Christian Coleman deserves the two years. I don't know if he's using PEDs and this doesn't really change my opinion. What I do know is he's not in compliance with a rule, and is wildly irresponsible with how he's handled the whole debacle. Random testing and the ABP are the lifeblood of proper anti-doping enforcement. If you are unable to be somewhere for an hour when your livelihood depends on it, sympathy should go out the window. Lying about it and playing victim when it is all definitively his fault and the AIU has the receipts (literally and figuratively) makes you look worse.
The whereabouts system is designed to be a deterrence to cheating, not to put away really dumb/careless athletes. However, Coleman's non-compliance and lack of accountability makes him feel to me susceptible to someone pushing PEDs on him or otherwise just thinking he can dope with impunity. He lost the benefit of the doubt and deserves a ban.
+1
It's hard to have sympathy for what is a self-inflicted violation, four times in recent history, and given his close call with the first three.
"I don't know if he's using PEDs"
Another +1 -- we cannot conclude this from a whereabouts violation -- even four of them.
I like Tygart's recent quote of the day:
“I hate the whereabouts system, I’ll be honest … I wish there were a better way and I hate the possibility of a non-intentional cheater getting a sanction for what might just be an inadvertent paperwork-type violation. … Unfortunately there is no better way now to guarantee successful out-of-competition testing, which is absolutely necessary to protect the clean athletes’ rights to compete on a level playing field.”
– USADA head Travis Tygart talking about the anti-doping whereabouts system which tests athletes out-of-competition.
This will be appealed and reduced to a 1 year ban, making him eligible for Tokyo still...
.. this will be pure lip service as a result of the Nasser mess up.
The issues stated that he has previously been called, was close by shopping not a deliberate attempt at missing in his eye (BS btw, rules are rules) and will be reduced to 1 year... I have no doubt
Probably. If all else fails, he can pull a Gay, say Drummond gave him the drugs (only once, of course), to get his ban reduced and Drummond's (pro forma) ban expanded.
In a fair system however, Coleman's ban would be doubled for his lying like Kipsang's. I hope AIU/WA/WADA appeals but of course that won't happen.
In any case, the real scandal here is how much USADA helps this cheat over this years to beat the whereabouts system. Like AKAD with Kiprop. Some things will never change. On that thought, that the top American printer doped is not surprising at all:
Top 10 American 100 m runners, sorted by PR
Gay – banned
Gatlin – banned
Coleman – banned
Greene – reported doper
Bromell
Burrell – reported doper
Rodgers – banned
Lewis – protected doper
Lyles
Norman
The top-4 of those are the ones under 9.8: Gay, Gatlin, Coleman, Greene. (Next is Bromell's 9.84 with a 1.3 tailwind.) The writing was on the wall.
jda9ball wrote:
Chipotle, Walmart, & Monday Night Football. Sounds like a real serious athlete who would give 100% commitment to his sport and never cheat to win..
Yes, that nasty mix has been the downfall of many a good man!
Glad they upheld the ban, but really what's the continued point of pretending everybody is clean? Honestly don't know the solution. Can't say "take what you want, and run" because there are trickle down issues to consider (how it affects college, high school athletes etc). But this is silly.
Luckily for Coleman, he will be back to competing before the Covid Hucksters allow the Oly Games to take place.
Gates is already telling us we cannot expect this to be over in the fall of 2021.
He knew this guy could foretell the future.
I am interested to see the father's post on here this time
This is great news for Gatlin, who I hate.
Also a couple guys who have been injured after thoughts until last year, Brommel and Grasse.
Lyles has to be smiling.
Norman has already said he isn't doing the 200 and 400 so I guess that takes out doing all three lol. But maybe he goes for the 400/100m? Has that ever been done?
Also Yohan might be competitive. There's also this old guy named Bolt who had he known all along Coleman would bust his nut and not make the Olympics would he of tried for a 4th time? I feel he can run 9.8 in his sleep.
Oduru may take it as well.
Just please god no Gatlin. I'm hoping Norman drops down and him, lyles and brommel can take it.
Coleman just cost the 4x100 a shot at a wr tho.
College athletes are already there. A lot of HS kids are too. Our understanding of steroids is so much better. Still kids shouldn't take them but for older adults they are LIFE ENHANCING. No bs. Hgh is a gd wonder drug.
Just read the favorites article and I forgot all about Ronny Baker. So someone isn't making the team. Lyles, Brommel, Baker, Gatlin. Wish Norman would run but he's charmin soft.
Bolt could medal in this thing. Surprised no to see Blakes name tho. A lot of guys that haven't been healthy tho.
Would Wade be a possibility? Will he even try the 200/400 double? Why the fuk is Norman not trying the 2/4? It's like since these athletes can't take what they NEED anymore they can't stay healthy enough to do the amazing things that we want to see and the sport NEEDS more than anything lol.
I knew Gatlin was suspended and all that. While not a fan of his I didn't know it was for "testosterone or its precursors". That's it ?!?! Thats all he tested for? His T levels were elevated? Lol. That's a joke honestly. If testosterone was aloud and that's all the runners could take then they should be happy. My god I thought he was taking designer roids lol. Not trt.
Why no edit function on here? Now that I think of it, Gatlin probably has a trt exemption now that he's 39 lol. I know it's aloud in other sports but is it aloud in t&f?
Preventable by not doping then having to avoid the testers when glowing!
lt man wrote:
It looks like he was purposely avoiding going home until after the 8:15 window ended. What is he hiding?
Nothing. He was just naive and careless thinking they will call him again when he's not home.
So, how many millions a trip to Walmart will cost him??
I am confused by the filing failure in April. They still showed up in iowa at a time not listed on his whereabouts. 12pm when he never said he would be home then. So shouldn't he get off on that technicality anyways?
And also him changing his time for the drake relays does make sense. he was obviously changing it for the next day and then afterwards since the dco already tried him in iowa.
Honestly some of this bureaucratic stuff is annoying.
Could he be doping? sure. But there's some issues with at least that April filing failure that he shouldn't be faulted for.
Cheater finally banned. Probably not going to be the last time.
Sorry I am confused. How many tests did he miss total? His entire career.
Four violations
- June 2018 - missed test
- Jan 2019 - failed filing
- Apr 2019 - failing filing
- Dec 2019 - missed test
(Failed filing is where he doesn't file the correct info in the system)
He got off on a technicality for the first 3 because June 2018 should have been backdated to 1 April 2018 which means he only missed "two in 12 months - April 2018-March 2019". Technicality but those are the rules agreed for testing.
What's odious is that when he got caught in April 2019, he though he could change his info on the system so that it looked like he didn't misfile. He'd been in Iowa for two days and the system said he was at home in Lexington. The tester phoned him at 12:09pm and five mins after the call he updated his whereabouts AND changed his 60-min availability slot from later that evening to 10am in the morning (so it looked like the tester was late). That's not just a misfiling, it's trying to CHEAT the system.