I do not always label people. YOU just happen to be a permabear. That is not even a debate, and it is applicable here as we are talking about the markets. I have weighed your views, and they are clearly those of a permabear.
Oh, and the label you gave me is certainly working for me today, and hurting you. Not my intention of course, but your choice to ignore the obvious.
A ridiculous way to look at stocks, and that is what fuels your permabear views.
Was the fact that you are a permabear hurtful to you and helpful to me the two previous days? No need to answer as I don't really care what you think there...you just ponder alone.
OK, I generally agree to all of that. However, that view is based on 100 years of data, and reaffirmed over the last decade. Nevertheless, the S&P 500 went nowhere 2000-2013, and the NASDAQ flat 2000-2016. The NASDAQ triple from 2016 to early 2022, to now lose 30%. Not inconsequential is the $9 Trillion added to the 2010-2021, and zero cost of money. I suspect markets will be unkind over the next decade. If you feel differently and want to gamble that the odds are in your favor, by all means go ahead.
There you go again cherry-picking the dates. Let's take that 2000 date or yours and run it forwards to the beginning of this year - 2022. Put $1 million in the S & P on 2000 that is now worth $5 million. Put $1 million in your beloved Husssman fund (HSGFX) and that is worth $1.2 million. Woud you rather have a gain of $200K or $4 million?
S+P 500 was at 1455.22 on 1/1/00.
Now is @ 3,781.
$1 million in the S+P 0n 1/1/2000 would be worth $2.6 million today. Not $5 million. A gain of $1.6 million, not $4 million.
Oh, and the label you gave me is certainly working for me today, and hurting you. Not my intention of course, but your choice to ignore the obvious.
A ridiculous way to look at stocks, and that is what fuels your permabear views.
Was the fact that you are a permabear hurtful to you and helpful to me the two previous days? No need to answer as I don't really care what you think there...you just ponder alone.
There you go again cherry-picking the dates. Let's take that 2000 date or yours and run it forwards to the beginning of this year - 2022. Put $1 million in the S & P on 2000 that is now worth $5 million. Put $1 million in your beloved Husssman fund (HSGFX) and that is worth $1.2 million. Woud you rather have a gain of $200K or $4 million?
S+P 500 was at 1455.22 on 1/1/00.
Now is @ 3,781.
$1 million in the S+P 0n 1/1/2000 would be worth $2.6 million today. Not $5 million. A gain of $1.6 million, not $4 million.
There you go again cherry-picking the dates. Let's take that 2000 date or yours and run it forwards to the beginning of this year - 2022. Put $1 million in the S & P on 2000 that is now worth $5 million. Put $1 million in your beloved Husssman fund (HSGFX) and that is worth $1.2 million. Woud you rather have a gain of $200K or $4 million?
S+P 500 was at 1455.22 on 1/1/00.
Now is @ 3,781.
$1 million in the S+P 0n 1/1/2000 would be worth $2.6 million today. Not $5 million. A gain of $1.6 million, not $4 million.
I got the numbers from the Hussman funds report itself. But I will check on it.
Oh Wait! You've said much good about Carl Lewis and the Torres brothers! I take it all back. You're truly a great human!
What's with the reference to Pete Rose? Why don't you just go get on top of ol' Rocky Top and shout, "I'm White Trash!"
The Hussman funds report had a chart that showed $10,000 invested on July 2000 (the date Hussmann strategic ) in the S & P was worth $50,000 on 12/31/21. But again I will double check. If I can find that again. LOL.
There you go again cherry-picking the dates. Let's take that 2000 date or yours and run it forwards to the beginning of this year - 2022. Put $1 million in the S & P on 2000 that is now worth $5 million. Put $1 million in your beloved Husssman fund (HSGFX) and that is worth $1.2 million. Woud you rather have a gain of $200K or $4 million?
S+P 500 was at 1455.22 on 1/1/00.
Now is @ 3,781.
$1 million in the S+P 0n 1/1/2000 would be worth $2.6 million today. Not $5 million. A gain of $1.6 million, not $4 million.
Okay here is the chart. - but it says $10,000 invested when HSGFX opened (July of 2000) would be worth almost $40,000 on June 2022. But I had used 12/31/2021 in my earlier message. Look at page 4.
How we doing, are we still bearish the rest of the year and 2023? I bought VTI at 188.73 and sold around 189.80. Made a quick $570 on that end of day pump. Too scared to hold overnight, SPY looks strong though.
How we doing, are we still bearish the rest of the year and 2023? I bought VTI at 188.73 and sold around 189.80. Made a quick $570 on that end of day pump. Too scared to hold overnight, SPY looks strong though.
I think Igy is very bullish on 2023 .... hey I was kidding!!!
How we doing, are we still bearish the rest of the year and 2023? I bought VTI at 188.73 and sold around 189.80. Made a quick $570 on that end of day pump. Too scared to hold overnight, SPY looks strong though.
I think Igy is very bullish on 2023 .... hey I was kidding!!!
Actually I have named my obsessed troll “Groomer of the Stool” since he is always kissing my ass. The nickname has a relevant and earlier place in history:
“The Groom of the Stool was a male servant in the household of the English monarch who was responsible for assisting the king in his toileting needs.”
I guess we should be thankful that you moved on from talking about male genitalia?
Igy - You and the missus have a wonderful Christmas - Everyone as well! I bet Idaho is might cold now but HOuston is going to have a 2 wind chill soon and that is quite a rarity.
Igy - You and the missus have a wonderful Christmas - Everyone as well! I bet Idaho is might cold now but HOuston is going to have a 2 wind chill soon and that is quite a rarity.
You too Sally. I lived thru a couple of freezes in Kingsville and McAllen. One year one of the football coaches had freezing pipes while gone for the holidays. What a mess.