Trollminator wrote:
If only she lived in Chicago or Baltimore!
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Trollminator wrote:
Teaparty Trevor wrote:
GOP House:
we can’t govern. We won’t govern. We refuse to govern. We won’t pass legislation. We won’t fund the government. We will give Ukraine to Russia potentially killing millions of citizens. And we will fight and terminate our own Majority house leader multiple times because of childish bickering to please Trump.
Trumpers:
I don’t know how anyone can vote Democrat today.
It's really incredible but trump was right years ago - he could shoot somebody and not lose voters. He knew it was a strong cult and the based proved him right.
Nowadays in NYC, you can carjack people and not get arrested.
The only person who would be arrested for a "crime" (one that he didn't commit) is Trump
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fjb wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
It's really incredible but trump was right years ago - he could shoot somebody and not lose voters. He knew it was a strong cult and the based proved him right.
Nowadays in NYC, you can carjack people and not get arrested.
The only person who would be arrested for a "crime" (one that he didn't commit) is Trump
^ fear ridden trumper who can't escape his victimhood
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in both the predictit and polymarket betting markets Joe is now ahead the indicted, adulterous, tax cheating, pro-Russia, intelligence threat, insurrectionist, thieving mob boss.
polling averages are all showing a dead heat.
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Nnonequals wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Here's a Google that I'm going to try to avoid wasting my time on: Learning JUST how sh*** a "news source" L.smartnews probably is. Seem to see it a lot from the Trumpers (or just Sally?), lately.
You are left trashing the messenger because you are not able to trash the message.
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Kudos to the United States Congress. It managed to summon a backbone and face down the extremists on the right and the left. Ukraine and Israel will get funded. A bipartisan bill to tell the crazies to STFU.
Will be utterly fascinating to see if Johnson's speakership will be saved by Democrats. Hard to see how MTG and the other russian lobbyist, right wing speed freaks don't ask for a vote to fire Johnson.
But my fondest hope is that a common sense center develops that excludes the nutballs on both sides. Of course Trump will do his best to blow that up because it would form a power center other than himself.
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Sally Vix wrote:
Nnonequals wrote:
Here's a Google that I'm going to try to avoid wasting my time on: Learning JUST how sh*** a "news source" L.smartnews probably is. Seem to see it a lot from the Trumpers (or just Sally?), lately.
You are left trashing the messenger because you are not able to trash the message.
Believe it or not, I'm going to sleep rather fine tonight knowing full well that I'm missing out on information from L.smartnews.
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That Well-Adjusted Biden Guy
@What46HasDone
Anyways, Joe Biden once again prevented a major escalation by successfully organizing Israel's defense against Iran's attack and talking Netanyahu down from a major response and now both Israel and Iran are eager to move on.
He was right, you all were wrong. For the 1000th time.
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agip wrote:
That Well-Adjusted Biden Guy
@What46HasDone
Anyways, Joe Biden once again prevented a major escalation by successfully organizing Israel's defense against Iran's attack and talking Netanyahu down from a major response and now both Israel and Iran are eager to move on.
He was right, you all were wrong. For the 1000th time.
6:53 AM · Apr 19, 2024
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ViewsOK, let's back off on the absurd overstatements about Biden's (or just about any president's) direct contributions to military success.
Believe it or not, I wasn't in the room(s), but I'm 100% sure of the following:
Joe Biden played absolutely no substantive role whatsoever in "successfully organizing Israel's defense against Iran's attack."
We have just a few experts in an organization called "The Department of Defense" for that.
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Nnonequals wrote:
agip wrote:
That Well-Adjusted Biden Guy
@What46HasDone
Anyways, Joe Biden once again prevented a major escalation by successfully organizing Israel's defense against Iran's attack and talking Netanyahu down from a major response and now both Israel and Iran are eager to move on.
He was right, you all were wrong. For the 1000th time.
6:53 AM · Apr 19, 2024
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18.3K
ViewsOK, let's back off on the absurd overstatements about Biden's (or just about any president's) direct contributions to military success.
Believe it or not, I wasn't in the room(s), but I'm 100% sure of the following:
Joe Biden played absolutely no substantive role whatsoever in "successfully organizing Israel's defense against Iran's attack."
We have just a few experts in an organization called "The Department of Defense" for that.
you think it's easy getting Jordan and Saudi to fight Muslim Iran to defend ur-hated very un-Muslim Israel? No high-up diplomacy from heads of state needed? Solid chance Biden called both kings and made this work.
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Nnonequals wrote:
agip wrote:
That Well-Adjusted Biden Guy
@What46HasDone
Anyways, Joe Biden once again prevented a major escalation by successfully organizing Israel's defense against Iran's attack and talking Netanyahu down from a major response and now both Israel and Iran are eager to move on.
He was right, you all were wrong. For the 1000th time.
6:53 AM · Apr 19, 2024
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18.3K
ViewsOK, let's back off on the absurd overstatements about Biden's (or just about any president's) direct contributions to military success.
Believe it or not, I wasn't in the room(s), but I'm 100% sure of the following:
Joe Biden played absolutely no substantive role whatsoever in "successfully organizing Israel's defense against Iran's attack."
We have just a few experts in an organization called "The Department of Defense" for that.
However, PLEASE DO note that Donald Trump DID personally remove ISIS from Iraq. The freakin clips that guy went through. And strongly. Phenomenal. And never a scratch.
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Nnonequals wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
You are left trashing the messenger because you are not able to trash the message.
Believe it or not, I'm going to sleep rather fine tonight knowing full well that I'm missing out on information from L.smartnews.
CNN, MSNBC, The View, ABC, Larry O'Donnel, Rachel, Joy Reid (all the programs you watch every night) are never going to tell you anything that doesn't align with the far-left radical liberal narrative. So you are missing on most of the truth. Pretty much all of it. Which is why you, Agip, Flaggy, Ginamator, and others make such sill arguments. You DON'T KNOW the truth. You are in a coccon being fed propaganda. Break out of it!!! Now!
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agip wrote:
Nnonequals wrote:
OK, let's back off on the absurd overstatements about Biden's (or just about any president's) direct contributions to military success.
Believe it or not, I wasn't in the room(s), but I'm 100% sure of the following:
Joe Biden played absolutely no substantive role whatsoever in "successfully organizing Israel's defense against Iran's attack."
We have just a few experts in an organization called "The Department of Defense" for that.
you think it's easy getting Jordan and Saudi to fight Muslim Iran to defend ur-hated very un-Muslim Israel? No high-up diplomacy from heads of state needed? Solid chance Biden called both kings and made this work.
Yeah that must be tough because as we know, Sunni Muslims (Jordan, SA) and Shia (Iran) normally get along great.
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shooting drones out of airspace wrote:
agip wrote:
you think it's easy getting Jordan and Saudi to fight Muslim Iran to defend ur-hated very un-Muslim Israel? No high-up diplomacy from heads of state needed? Solid chance Biden called both kings and made this work.
Yeah that must be tough because as we know, Sunni Muslims (Jordan, SA) and Shia (Iran) normally get along great.
something like a quarter of Jordanians have Palestinian heritage. Defending Israel militarily with that kind of population is a big deal. The Jordanian gummint will take a hit on this from its people. US had to use very high level diplomacy here. At least state department, almost for sure White House. Not strictly a DoD matter.
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agip wrote:
Nnonequals wrote:
OK, let's back off on the absurd overstatements about Biden's (or just about any president's) direct contributions to military success.
Believe it or not, I wasn't in the room(s), but I'm 100% sure of the following:
Joe Biden played absolutely no substantive role whatsoever in "successfully organizing Israel's defense against Iran's attack."
We have just a few experts in an organization called "The Department of Defense" for that.
you think it's easy getting Jordan and Saudi to fight Muslim Iran to defend ur-hated Israel? No high-up diplomacy from heads of state needed? Solid chance Biden called both kings and made this work.
That's not "organizing Israel's defense." Folks in the U.S. and Israeli militaries are making suggestions about how to do it, and you're making phone calls to make it work. You get credit for diplomacy, sure.
I'm VERY certain that we already give politicians (and they so often TAKE!) WAY too much credit for stuff that other people are doing. I think that it's good to call BS when their roles are overstated.
Analogy:
"Obama killed Osama."
No, about a million folks figured it out and made a plan. A small number of people carried it out. And a much, much smaller group risked their lives in it.
Obama gets credit for saying "Go," and whatever diplomatic things he did before or after.
One just doesn't go too far with it. I'm POSITIVE that none of their ego's need any undo additional help from the media and others about their relative contributions to good things.
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Nnonequals wrote:
agip wrote:
you think it's easy getting Jordan and Saudi to fight Muslim Iran to defend ur-hated Israel? No high-up diplomacy from heads of state needed? Solid chance Biden called both kings and made this work.
That's not "organizing Israel's defense." Folks in the U.S. and Israeli militaries are making suggestions about how to do it, and you're making phone calls to make it work. You get credit for diplomacy, sure.
I'm VERY certain that we already give politicians (and they so often TAKE!) WAY too much credit for stuff that other people are doing. I think that it's good to call BS when their roles are overstated.
Analogy:
"Obama killed Osama."
No, about a million folks figured it out and made a plan. A small number of people carried it out. And a much, much smaller group risked their lives in it.
Obama gets credit for saying "Go," and whatever diplomatic things he did before or after.
One just doesn't go too far with it. I'm POSITIVE that none of their ego's need any undo additional help from the media and others about their relative contributions to good things.
Lastly, Agip, a man your age simply wants to avoid accusations of being a "fanboy." That should be limited to being a young man pejorative!
(you don't have any Rupp-signed stuff.....do you ???)
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Nnonequals wrote:
Nnonequals wrote:
That's not "organizing Israel's defense." Folks in the U.S. and Israeli militaries are making suggestions about how to do it, and you're making phone calls to make it work. You get credit for diplomacy, sure.
I'm VERY certain that we already give politicians (and they so often TAKE!) WAY too much credit for stuff that other people are doing. I think that it's good to call BS when their roles are overstated.
Analogy:
"Obama killed Osama."
No, about a million folks figured it out and made a plan. A small number of people carried it out. And a much, much smaller group risked their lives in it.
Obama gets credit for saying "Go," and whatever diplomatic things he did before or after.
One just doesn't go too far with it. I'm POSITIVE that none of their ego's need any undo additional help from the media and others about their relative contributions to good things.
Lastly, Agip, a man your age simply wants to avoid accusations of being a "fanboy." That should be limited to being a young man pejorative!
(you don't have any Rupp-signed stuff.....do you ???)
You ARE, however, allowed to be Sisay "Grandpa" Lemma fanboy !!! A rare exception. 2:06 with heavy gray. Gotta love that.
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Nnonequals wrote:
Nnonequals wrote:
Lastly, Agip, a man your age simply wants to avoid accusations of being a "fanboy." That should be limited to being a young man pejorative!
(you don't have any Rupp-signed stuff.....do you ???)
You ARE, however, allowed to be Sisay "Grandpa" Lemma fanboy !!! A rare exception. 2:06 with heavy gray. Gotta love that.
....PLUS the Solinsky-esque frame !!!
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Nnonequals wrote:
agip wrote:
you think it's easy getting Jordan and Saudi to fight Muslim Iran to defend ur-hated Israel? No high-up diplomacy from heads of state needed? Solid chance Biden called both kings and made this work.
That's not "organizing Israel's defense." Folks in the U.S. and Israeli militaries are making suggestions about how to do it, and you're making phone calls to make it work. You get credit for diplomacy, sure.
I'm VERY certain that we already give politicians (and they so often TAKE!) WAY too much credit for stuff that other people are doing. I think that it's good to call BS when their roles are overstated.
Analogy:
"Obama killed Osama."
No, about a million folks figured it out and made a plan. A small number of people carried it out. And a much, much smaller group risked their lives in it.
Obama gets credit for saying "Go," and whatever diplomatic things he did before or after.
One just doesn't go too far with it. I'm POSITIVE that none of their ego's need any undo additional help from the media and others about their relative contributions to good things.
ok so you are talking logistics on the ground.
I'm talking the whole package, esp getting governments to agree. Diplomacy.
Semantic disagreement.
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Sally Vix wrote:
Nnonequals wrote:
Believe it or not, I'm going to sleep rather fine tonight knowing full well that I'm missing out on information from L.smartnews.
CNN, MSNBC, The View, ABC, Larry O'Donnel, Rachel, Joy Reid (all the programs you watch every night) are never going to tell you anything that doesn't align with the far-left radical liberal narrative. So you are missing on most of the truth. Pretty much all of it. Which is why you, Agip, Flaggy, Ginamator, and others make such sill arguments. You DON'T KNOW the truth. You are in a coccon being fed propaganda. Break out of it!!! Now!
Correct!
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