ernest 1978 wrote:
I am not a conservative but nothing will convince me the election was legit. I think there was a lot of fraud but we don't have checks in place to catch it. And it's nearly impossible to catch fraud after the fact.
Agingrunner wrote:
Its systemic voter fraud. No justice. No peace.
Neither of you took up with the basic premises of the question, that:
- It is very difficult for us as armchair pundits to distinguish between what is a credible allegation and what is not
- It's reasonable to assume the strongest evidence ends up court
- So then if all the court challenges are unsuccessful (to be determined) we can reasonably conclude all the "evidence" we're seeing not is not credible
If you're still digging in your heels after that, aren't you just insisting on voter fraud because it "feels" like there was voter fraud. That's not a way to make a decision.
It's the hallmark of an open mind that it can be changed. Seems like you two are admitting you're just idealogues.
I am open to criticisms of the premise outlined, that would be fair.