"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

Inquiring minds want to know wrote:

What happens if people don't want to take the 3rd dose? (do you have any stats on the percentage rates of people getting the booster?).

Could there be a whole new group of Americans who were fully-vaccinated but are now under-vaccinated and will be considering unvaccinated and labeled as such by the CDC & Fauci?

And if these numbers of revised unvaccinated are large enough, couldn't they join forces with the anti-vaxxers/vaccine hesitant in pushing back against state, local & federal mandates? (strength in numbers is what the a anti-vaxxers want).

Something to think about - I know a lot or people who are fully-vaxx and not buying into the fearmongering this time around and have basically given the finger in taking the booster.

Smart people understand that we learned a ton about the immune dynamics of the mRNA (and viral vector) vaccines from the first two shots -- and thus made the call that a third dose would be greatly advised.

Dumb people expected the scientists to have all the answers from the start, or are simply concern trolling because they're so butthurt that vaccines work.

Let's see where you stand :)

Harambe wrote:

See thread:

https://twitter.com/profshanecrotty/status/1428785670110150657

"So, the vast majority of transmissions are unvaxxed."

Whatever the Science based political party says to do, is what I'm gonna do! Sorry. Not Sorry.

The antivaxxer discovers excess deaths. Only took them almost 2 years. Congrats.

P.S. Excess deaths closely track covid cases and hospitalizations and minimally track vaccine dosing patterns. Sorry to crush your pet theory.

You DO realize that the term "Butt hurt" offends some sub groups of humans, not only in the US, but also worldwide??? Please be more tolerant and sensitive when trying to get your brilliant points across. Thank you.

There's no doubt murderous antivaxxers are politically motivated in most cases.

Their propaganda is maybe not having the intended effect thought...

https://twitter.com/YanagizawaD/status/1478130665396838401?s=20

You didn’t read the article. This is not Covid *eventually* becomes death and, hence, tracks excess death almost perfectly. This is something else entirely.

You clowns think anti-mRNA encoding S protein related to the 2019 version of the virus is “antivaxx.” Couldn’t be further from the truth. But many of us have naturally acquired immunity and welcome the Omicron booster.

It is entirely way too early to say that these “vaccines” are safe. Absence of data doesn’t equal data of absence.

Covidiocy wrote:

It is entirely way too early to say that these “vaccines” are safe. Absence of data doesn’t equal data of absence.

If you argument has devolved into an Aristotelian "you cannot prove a negative, therefore we cannot say vaccines are not harmful!!1"... I might suggest reexamining your priors and the evidence.

The evidence supporting your rabid "anti-S blah blah blah" position is so flimsy that you are obviously motivated by a larger, more pernicious dogma. I.e. "antivaxx."

In case you are actually arguing in good faith and simply confused, take a look at the CDC death data:

You can select "Weekly number of deaths by age" and "Indiana" and see that there any above baseline deaths across all age groups correspond to the Winter 2020 and Delta waves, and not with periods of vaccine uptake.

You can even look at Indiana vaccine data and see that the 2021 peaks in excess death show no correlation with vaccination trends:

So yeah, keep searching with increasing desperation. You ability to grade evidence has vanished.

Washington State data through late December shows vaccines remaining very effective across every age group.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

Queue the 'wait two weeks' crowd.

Harambe wrote:

Covidiocy wrote:

It is entirely way too early to say that these “vaccines” are safe. Absence of data doesn’t equal data of absence.

You can even look at Indiana vaccine data and see that the 2021 peaks in excess death show no correlation with vaccination trends:

https://www.coronavirus.in.gov/vaccine/vaccine-dashboard/

Why would they show correlation if downstream consequences appear later? God, it’s like I’m arguing with my tween.

What’s sad is you don’t know the potential damage you are inflicting, speaking of dogma. This jab rollout needed to be far more nuanced, and the jury is very much out. The canaries die first and sometimes unnoticed.

Covidiocy wrote:

Why would they show correlation if downstream consequences appear later? God, it’s like I’m arguing with my tween.

What’s sad is you don’t know the potential damage you are inflicting, speaking of dogma. This jab rollout needed to be far more nuanced, and the jury is very much out. The canaries die first and sometimes unnoticed.

So let's get this straight

1) A random CEO says he's seeing a 40% increase in deaths that no other data supports

2) No other places are reporting this reportedly eye-popping increase in deaths

3) Any excess deaths, however, DO correlate nearly perfectly with the two big COVID waves in Indiana

4) You have no biological mechanism for long-term toxicity of mRNA vaccines besides "what if cancer" or some other dilettante BS

5) Your final argument has disintegrated into demanding your opponents prove a negative.

Yup, must be the vaccine!

P.S. I think your tween may be smarter than you -- hence the arguing.

It's been 12 months of mass vaccination and they are still praying for mass death...

Harambe wrote:

Washington State data through late December [show] vaccines remaining very effective across every age group.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

[Cue] the 'wait two weeks' crowd.

Or, if that doesn't work--"Well, then, wait two months! What, nothing so far? Okay, wait two years! Or as long as you have to! Because even though we can't posit a plausible mechanism for it, cancer/blood clots/something or other *could* appear at a later date! Prove us wrong!"

Read the article, dunce.

“The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

Covidiocy wrote:

“The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

data are

Covidiocy wrote:

Harambe wrote:

So let's get this straight

1) A random CEO says he's seeing a 40% increase in deaths that no other data supports

2) No other places are reporting this reportedly eye-popping increase in deaths

3) Any excess deaths, however, DO correlate nearly perfectly with the two big COVID waves in Indiana

4) You have no biological mechanism for long-term toxicity of mRNA vaccines besides "what if cancer" or some other dilettante BS

5) Your final argument has disintegrated into demanding your opponents prove a negative.

Yup, must be the vaccine!

P.S. I think your tween may be smarter than you -- hence the arguing.

Read the article, dunce.

“The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

AKA: I have nothing to back up my assertions, refuse to engage with the hoards of negative data, and will just hide behind "read the article."

2600 bro wrote:

Covidiocy wrote:

Read the article, dunce.

“The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

AKA: I have nothing to back up my assertions, refuse to engage with the hoards of negative data, and will just hide behind "read the article."

Hey Shlt for brains your supposed to be posting in the official thread.

2600 bro wrote:

Covidiocy wrote:

Read the article, dunce.

“The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

AKA: I have nothing to back up my assertions, refuse to engage with the hoards of negative data, and will just hide behind "read the article."

Brojos, now that there is an official covid BS thread, it is time to delete this bigoted threads perpetuated by bigots like Bro2600. Please, this dude just constantly operates under the auspice that he has actually provided any evidence towards his bigoted claims, despite the fact that he never really has....he just posts random articles and distorts things to meet his own delusion. Time to delete this absurdly wrong thread.

Correlation does not necessarily mean causation, but causation requires correlation.

Here's Indiana excess deaths and COVID deaths on the same plot.

https://monkeystyping.neocities.org/IndianaExcessAndCovidDeaths.png

The things that jump out are that there is good correlation between the two, there's an odd, presumably catch-up COVID data dump in February 2021, and excess deaths are lower than the COVID attributed deaths in Feb-Apr 2021.

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

Correlation does not necessarily mean causation, but causation requires correlation.

Here's Indiana excess deaths and COVID deaths on the same plot.

https://monkeystyping.neocities.org/IndianaExcessAndCovidDeaths.png

The things that jump out are that there is good correlation between the two, there's an odd, presumably catch-up COVID data dump in February 2021, and excess deaths are lower than the COVID attributed deaths in Feb-Apr 2021.

Yeah, that’ll do it