Full Shelby Houlihan Report is Out from CAS

Lock her up. Send SH to guantanamo

rojo wrote:

Do we know who wrote that? That to me is mindblowing. If you wrote it, please email me as I want to talk to you. If you read that it's hard to understand why she hasn't been cleared

Hahahahaha

Rojo... I literally LOL'ed.

Word of advice: you might want to do some fact checking before you believe random statements made by an anonymous person on the internet.

1) The current WADA rules specifically state that when pork is cited that a pharmacokinetics study must be done to see if the nandrolone is endogenous or exogenous., not the GC/C/IRMS Test which has a 40% fale positive rate.

So many errors in that first statement alone, and I am not talking about the spelling. Read the CAS report if you don't believe me.

[quote]you don't say wrote:

And there you have it:

"Sixth, the concentration of 19-NA in the Athlete’s urine was 2-3 times higher

than the highest values reported in the scientific literature after the ingestion of

much more significant quantities of meat of mature (uncastrated) boar"

And this is on top of everything else.

Shame on all of those in BTC that defended her

I don't think so, it's highly, highly likely that the burrito pork slurry was stewed meet or the concentration of boiled down ingredients.

It could have been a batch from a day or two ago where the men's amount of pork in the pot and down towards the end she might have gotten a huge concentration of not just meat but the student chooses of me where again boil down and concentrated who knows...

Wet Coast wrote:

She maintains her innocense and is appealing to the Swiss Tribunal:

https://athleticsillustrated.com/shelby-houlihans-next-step-appeal-to-the-swiss-federal-tribunal/

Went through the whole thread and nobody seemingly read through her quotes in this article on page 17 of the thread:

“We tested all of my vitamins and supplements which all came back negative. Unfortunately, there were a couple that we didn’t have the original batches of because I was notified a month later and those supplements were already consumed,” shared Houlihan.

SH knows exactly how the nandrolone got in her system. It wasn’t from a food truck.

covid has taught us all that people are happiest when finding "evidence" to believe their priors and when faced with contrary evidence are actually more likely to double down on their original views--it's like end of the world cults, the world doesn't end and the preacher changes the story "we prayed hard enough and were spared"

exactly this going on around a favoured athlete that half this board is giddy for and wants to believe is clean. So a huge raft of misinformation, which avoids the simple fact--she was popped. Could have been anyone, just so happens it was a suspiciously improved athlete

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nobody read this wrote:

Wet Coast wrote:

She maintains her innocense and is appealing to the Swiss Tribunal:

https://athleticsillustrated.com/shelby-houlihans-next-step-appeal-to-the-swiss-federal-tribunal/

Went through the whole thread and nobody seemingly read through her quotes in this article on page 17 of the thread:

“We tested all of my vitamins and supplements which all came back negative. Unfortunately, there were a couple that we didn’t have the original batches of because I was notified a month later and those supplements were already consumed,” shared Houlihan.

SH knows exactly how the nandrolone got in her system. It wasn’t from a food truck.

On what basis do you say that she knows?

gumpyrunner wrote:

sanootage wrote:There is no evidence she cheated.

Such was never put to the test.

Where within her defense did she prove (not suggest) that rules violation was unintentional?

Such a defence is not allowed and would have been struck out immediately.

In normal justice the burden is on the prosecution ; that is the whole point.

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This is so embarrassing for LRC and the Brojos. LRC, more like "where you see what you want to believe"...

So now it's quite clear that:

- she is a cheat, she doped, as Rojo clearly demonstrated

- by extension, and in agreement with Rojo Centro is also clearly and undeniably a cheat (and a moron)

- Centro should be banned and return the 2016 gold and possibly prior WC medals

gumpyrunner wrote:

At which point in the documentaion did Shelby prove that the rules violation was unintentional?

She didn’t but tried too with the burrito story.

sanootage wrote:

nobody read this wrote:

Went through the whole thread and nobody seemingly read through her quotes in this article on page 17 of the thread:

“We tested all of my vitamins and supplements which all came back negative. Unfortunately, there were a couple that we didn’t have the original batches of because I was notified a month later and those supplements were already consumed,” shared Houlihan.

SH knows exactly how the nandrolone got in her system. It wasn’t from a food truck.

On what basis do you say that she knows?

Thanks for pointing out the quote. I missed it. Why not provide the full list. If I were an innocent athlete, I’d have a list present if everything I was on. Not that I only tested half.

Second point is that this is not a trial. It’s the system in place which the athlete has agreed under the rules to be assumed to not put anything illegal into their bodies. Burden of proof is on her not the wada

The rules of the sport are if you fail a test and appeals, you are guilty and banned. Else you are clean. Nothing else matters as far as IAAF, sponsors, and most people including former fans (except the most diehard ones) are concerned.

If you don’t like those rules, maybe you shouldn’t be a pro runner. The world isn’t perfect, never has been.

sanootage wrote:

On what basis do you say that she knows?

On the basis that she was part of a sophisticated doping system run by BTC with the full knowledge and support of nike.

Athletes dont acidentally use PEDs for planned performance enhancement, they do it deliberately and often with outside assistance. you have to be an expert to manipulate the doses so that they cant be detected. you need access to reseacrh faciltiies to keep ahead of the testers and find new drugs. Occasionally slip ups are made and they get caught, but omerta comes in strong and hard.

How can BTC / Nike be a bit bent? Can you imagine being part of a team and suspecting your mates are doing drugs and not doing them yourselves. You know you are going to have to cover up for cheats, so why wouldnt you cheat yourself?

I really don’t understand the SH believers. The odds are very high that she was doping irrespective of the failed test.

Every pro runner I’ve known admits to PED use as commonplace and as a necessary evil around them. They of course don’t explicitly say “therefore I do them too because I have no choice” but from the casualness and acceptance in their tone, it’s pretty damn obvious. I personally don’t judge them for using PEDs in modest amounts as long as they don’t fail the test limits.

Another giver of +1 wrote:

High hopes wrote:

So, Twoggle3, the great hope for the LRC campaign to exonerate Houlihan, is a guy with 1 follower on Twitter, a guy called Keith Moulton. Twoggle3 only follows 5 people - Shelby, her mom, Molly Huddle, BTC, and... Keith Moulton. What are the odds that Twoggle3 is Keith Moulton? A quick scroll through Keith's timeline reveals he is a Covid vaccine sceptic and supports use of ivermectin. So Twoggle3's only follow/follow-back is a crank with just enough scientific knowledge to use the long words, but not fully understand what they mean. I wouldn't be hanging my hopes on Twoggle3

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hahahhahhahahahahhah

desperate people will do stupid things. Also, look at her jawline - clearly on massive amounts of STEROids. cheating dirt bag.

thats interesting wrote:

sanootage wrote:

On what basis do you say that she knows?

Thanks for pointing out the quote. I missed it. Why not provide the full list. If I were an innocent athlete, I’d have a list present if everything I was on. Not that I only tested half.

Second point is that this is not a trial. It’s the system in place which the athlete has agreed under the rules to be assumed to not put anything illegal into their bodies. Burden of proof is on her not the wada

It has every single element of a trial and the penalties are severe.

Most non legal hearings pay due respect to normal justice; why not sport.

Think billionaire sports stars will make this point.

https://athleticsillustrated.com/shelby-houlihans-next-step-appeal-to-the-swiss-federal-tribunal/

Why did Houlihan wait until the AIU report to state that she's appealing this when the original report in PDF was out 5 days before the AIU's report?