“Four brokers and thirty insurance companies ago our orange father brought forth on this continent a new notion, conceived in deception, and dedicated to the proposition that he was very rich and above the law.” - The Griftyburg Address
I mostly agree that gutting the RNC is a bad idea for the GOP
EXCEPT
Have to remember how Trump plans to get elected: If he loses in the real world, he will absolutely clog the legal system with hundreds of lawsuits against everyone who touches a ballot. I mean everyone. It will be absolute chaos, and remember he appointed a bunch of unqualified hack judges last time. Several of them will agree to throw out election results on Trump's orders, giving fuel to the coup.
The intent, of course, is to stall the vote count to prevent the final count of the electoral votes, so the election gets thrown to the House and it will elect Trump, against the will of the American people.
I'm sure focusing the RNC on planning, paying for and coordinating the court-based coup attempt is the goal here. Trump doesn't care about anything but that, since his freedom is at stake.
Have to judge everything trump does by that strategy and I'm sure this fits in.
I think Trump's takeover of the RNC is not primarily about funneling money to Trump. It is about purging any non-trump loyalists that might spill the beans about any election crimes and ratfuquery they plan in the next 8 months and beyond.
They are planning some illegal sh!t this go around and can't have any people flipping on them before they get into power.
that too, yes.
shows us what trump would do if elected. He'd immediately try to destroy any oversight from DOJ or other two branches of government. he'd put a bunch of giuliani/cannon types into office and tell them to look the other way.
He contacted 30 creditors to see if they would give him a bond, and they all said, "NO!" Why? Because he's a credit risk. Because he's not worth what he says he is. Because his properties are not worth what he says they are.
In just a few more days, if he doesn't pay up, Leticia James is going to start seizing his assets and selling them. What a f*cking loser Trump is. I hope she takes Mar-a-Lago first...get that POS club with its criminal stench out of our daily lexicon.
He took all of that money from his Daddy and then stiffed contractor after contractor after contractor and stole money from his "charitable" foundation and behaved in financially criminal ways, and he STILL is worse off than he would have been if he had just sunk that money into an index fund. He could have just played golf to his heart's content, but nope, he had to become the worst businessman in the history of The United States. Pathetic.
It is very easy to determine the value of his properties. It is NOT him determine the value.
He might be worth $3 billion but little of that is cash or liquid assets.
Not so easy. Forbes relies mostly on self-reporting to determine a person's net worth. Other reporters do the same. They don't have the ability or the interest to dive in deeply to determine what the truth is.
1) Forbes had him at $3.1 billion net worth at the beginning of his Presidency. Now, they have him at $2.6 billion, and that was BEFORE these monetary judgements against him. Who the hell else lost so much of their net worth during that time? Not me!
2) Trump plays a shell game with his net worth. He lies. It's not always clear how much of a property he owns (again, because he lies). Michael Cohen mentioned the other day that Trump owns just $1 million of 40 Wall Street that bears his name. That's smoke and mirrors right there.
3) What is a MUCH better indicator of Trump's wealth is NOT that he can't pony up the $454 million to pay the fine he owes, but that NO ONE will give him a bond for it because they RIGHTFULLY believe he's a credit risk. They KNOW his properties aren't worth what he says they are...not even close. They KNOW that he has stiffed people and companies in the past. They know he's full of sh!t when he says he's super wealthy.
4) Trump is so heavily leveraged and hardly owns ANYTHING outright that there's no way he's a billionaire let alone a multi-billionaire. We will find out when the fire sale begins. He deserves to be completely wiped out for what he has done to this country...and just because he's a criminal. F*ck that guy.
It is very easy to determine the value of his properties. It is NOT him determine the value.
He might be worth $3 billion but little of that is cash or liquid assets.
Not so easy. Forbes relies mostly on self-reporting to determine a person's net worth. Other reporters do the same. They don't have the ability or the interest to dive in deeply to determine what the truth is.
1) Forbes had him at $3.1 billion net worth at the beginning of his Presidency. Now, they have him at $2.6 billion, and that was BEFORE these monetary judgements against him. Who the hell else lost so much of their net worth during that time? Not me!
2) Trump plays a shell game with his net worth. He lies. It's not always clear how much of a property he owns (again, because he lies). Michael Cohen mentioned the other day that Trump owns just $1 million of 40 Wall Street that bears his name. That's smoke and mirrors right there.
3) What is a MUCH better indicator of Trump's wealth is NOT that he can't pony up the $454 million to pay the fine he owes, but that NO ONE will give him a bond for it because they RIGHTFULLY believe he's a credit risk. They KNOW his properties aren't worth what he says they are...not even close. They KNOW that he has stiffed people and companies in the past. They know he's full of sh!t when he says he's super wealthy.
4) Trump is so heavily leveraged and hardly owns ANYTHING outright that there's no way he's a billionaire let alone a multi-billionaire. We will find out when the fire sale begins. He deserves to be completely wiped out for what he has done to this country...and just because he's a criminal. F*ck that guy.
Most of Trump's assets are in properties. Elon Musk can sell stock and have $50 billion by Thursday. Trump's assets are much more illiquid.
As far as property values, you can easily determine how much each property is worth. He owns Trump national Doral Miami worth about $300 million. Mar-a-Lago is worth $200 million. Avenue of the Americas is worth about $2 billion and Trump owns about 30% of that. Trump Tower maybe $500 million. Come on - the guy is loaded.
Most of Trump's assets are in properties. Elon Musk can sell stock and have $50 billion by Thursday. Trump's assets are much more illiquid.
As far as property values, you can easily determine how much each property is worth. He owns Trump national Doral Miami worth about $300 million. Mar-a-Lago is worth $200 million. Avenue of the Americas is worth about $2 billion and Trump owns about 30% of that. Trump Tower maybe $500 million. Come on - the guy is loaded.
If that were true. Lenders would love to lend against all those properties. But they won’t because they are leveraged through the roof. Which is another way of saying that his lenders own those properties.
Not so easy. Forbes relies mostly on self-reporting to determine a person's net worth. Other reporters do the same. They don't have the ability or the interest to dive in deeply to determine what the truth is.
1) Forbes had him at $3.1 billion net worth at the beginning of his Presidency. Now, they have him at $2.6 billion, and that was BEFORE these monetary judgements against him. Who the hell else lost so much of their net worth during that time? Not me!
2) Trump plays a shell game with his net worth. He lies. It's not always clear how much of a property he owns (again, because he lies). Michael Cohen mentioned the other day that Trump owns just $1 million of 40 Wall Street that bears his name. That's smoke and mirrors right there.
3) What is a MUCH better indicator of Trump's wealth is NOT that he can't pony up the $454 million to pay the fine he owes, but that NO ONE will give him a bond for it because they RIGHTFULLY believe he's a credit risk. They KNOW his properties aren't worth what he says they are...not even close. They KNOW that he has stiffed people and companies in the past. They know he's full of sh!t when he says he's super wealthy.
4) Trump is so heavily leveraged and hardly owns ANYTHING outright that there's no way he's a billionaire let alone a multi-billionaire. We will find out when the fire sale begins. He deserves to be completely wiped out for what he has done to this country...and just because he's a criminal. F*ck that guy.
Most of Trump's assets are in properties. Elon Musk can sell stock and have $50 billion by Thursday. Trump's assets are much more illiquid.
As far as property values, you can easily determine how much each property is worth. He owns Trump national Doral Miami worth about $300 million. Mar-a-Lago is worth $200 million. Avenue of the Americas is worth about $2 billion and Trump owns about 30% of that. Trump Tower maybe $500 million. Come on - the guy is loaded.
Uh no he cannot, that's not how it works. Any news of selling and as any actual selling starts the stock would take a massive dive. Fire sales never net you a good price, and that goes for real estate as well. Who is lined up to buy high from trump? Ahhh perhaps an anonymous Russian buyer.
“Four brokers and thirty insurance companies ago our orange father brought forth on this continent a new notion, conceived in deception, and dedicated to the proposition that he was very rich and above the law.” - The Griftyburg Address
lolz.. tzees have literally lost their minds supporting this criminal loser
Joe has a 12+-hour workday today including several public appearances. I know Rs think he sits in a chair drooling all day, but they also think global warming is a hoax, government revenue goes up when you cut taxes and that vaccines don't work.
Most of Trump's assets are in properties. Elon Musk can sell stock and have $50 billion by Thursday. Trump's assets are much more illiquid.
As far as property values, you can easily determine how much each property is worth. He owns Trump national Doral Miami worth about $300 million. Mar-a-Lago is worth $200 million. Avenue of the Americas is worth about $2 billion and Trump owns about 30% of that. Trump Tower maybe $500 million. Come on - the guy is loaded.
Uh no he cannot, that's not how it works. Any news of selling and as any actual selling starts the stock would take a massive dive. Fire sales never net you a good price, and that goes for real estate as well. Who is lined up to buy high from trump? Ahhh perhaps an anonymous Russian buyer.
I will concede that you made a good point. Musk selling off that much would greatly affect the stock price. Selling of $3 billion or so would not make much of a difference.
Joe has a 12+-hour workday today including several public appearances. I know Rs think he sits in a chair drooling all day, but they also think global warming is a hoax, government revenue goes up when you cut taxes and that vaccines don't work.
What the Trump camp has done with the RNC is actually interesting. It's a gamble that COULD pay off, but not likely going to be successful given their lack of runway and poor strategy. The RNC has also traditionally supported local elections, but now it's going to be 100% about Trump, with the idea that there will be a trickle down effect for other Trump party candidates. That aside, they seem to have made a massive mistake by gutting the local apparatuses of the RNC as well, in particular in swing states. They are literally starting from scratch in many states and they are light years behind Biden in fundraising. The other massive mistake is a strategic one. The new head is a huge believer in traditional in-person voting which is why Trump likes him. And Lara is likely an idiot who will just go along. The RNC had spent several years trying to improve early R voting and now the new "leadership" is killing that approach too. ETTD.
I mostly agree that gutting the RNC is a bad idea for the GOP
EXCEPT
Have to remember how Trump plans to get elected: If he loses in the real world, he will absolutely clog the legal system with hundreds of lawsuits against everyone who touches a ballot. I mean everyone. It will be absolute chaos, and remember he appointed a bunch of unqualified hack judges last time. Several of them will agree to throw out election results on Trump's orders, giving fuel to the coup.
The intent, of course, is to stall the vote count to prevent the final count of the electoral votes, so the election gets thrown to the House and it will elect Trump, against the will of the American people.
I'm sure focusing the RNC on planning, paying for and coordinating the court-based coup attempt is the goal here. Trump doesn't care about anything but that, since his freedom is at stake.
Have to judge everything trump does by that strategy and I'm sure this fits in.
He is in full desperation mode and the rest of his life may depend on the outcome of the election. It's like a giant binary play here. So I agree he will do anything, and openly if needed, to grab power. However, given he is not the incumbent, once the election issue gets thrown to the house the DOJ will have to bring down the hammer on Rs complicit with the election fraud scheme. In the end most Rs won't fall on their swords to that degree for Trump. Democracy will barely hold again.
Not so easy. Forbes relies mostly on self-reporting to determine a person's net worth. Other reporters do the same. They don't have the ability or the interest to dive in deeply to determine what the truth is.
1) Forbes had him at $3.1 billion net worth at the beginning of his Presidency. Now, they have him at $2.6 billion, and that was BEFORE these monetary judgements against him. Who the hell else lost so much of their net worth during that time? Not me!
2) Trump plays a shell game with his net worth. He lies. It's not always clear how much of a property he owns (again, because he lies). Michael Cohen mentioned the other day that Trump owns just $1 million of 40 Wall Street that bears his name. That's smoke and mirrors right there.
3) What is a MUCH better indicator of Trump's wealth is NOT that he can't pony up the $454 million to pay the fine he owes, but that NO ONE will give him a bond for it because they RIGHTFULLY believe he's a credit risk. They KNOW his properties aren't worth what he says they are...not even close. They KNOW that he has stiffed people and companies in the past. They know he's full of sh!t when he says he's super wealthy.
4) Trump is so heavily leveraged and hardly owns ANYTHING outright that there's no way he's a billionaire let alone a multi-billionaire. We will find out when the fire sale begins. He deserves to be completely wiped out for what he has done to this country...and just because he's a criminal. F*ck that guy.
Most of Trump's assets are in properties. Elon Musk can sell stock and have $50 billion by Thursday. Trump's assets are much more illiquid.
As far as property values, you can easily determine how much each property is worth. He owns Trump national Doral Miami worth about $300 million. Mar-a-Lago is worth $200 million. Avenue of the Americas is worth about $2 billion and Trump owns about 30% of that. Trump Tower maybe $500 million. Come on - the guy is loaded.
You continue to be fooled by this conman. A court determined Mar-a-Lago was worth between $18-$26 million...that's likely low and really used for tax payment, but it's not worth anywhere close to $200 million...and of course Trump says it's worth $1.2 BILLION. Ha! Doral isn't worth that either. Also, how much of that does Trump own outright? Meaning, does he still owe money on the purchase price (akin to a mortgage)? He calls himself the "king od debt."
Here is what you are not understanding. Trump contacted 30 creditors to try to give him a bond for the $454 million he owes. NONE of them would do it. Why not? They would have made a TRUCKLOAD on that IF Trump was good for it and paid it back. He's not good for it. They know it. Trump owes $100 MILLION on Trump Tower. He doesn't own it outright. He hardly owns anything outright as he takes loans against everything so he can sh!t in a gold toilet.
We will see how loaded he is. My guess is that he's going to have to sell just about everything he owes, and it still might not satisfy the penalty, because he just doesn't own enough of those properties for the sales to raise that money. I'm not sure what happens then.
When you consider he doesn't own 100% of anything, when he DOES sell (well, it will be Leticia James doing the selling), he'll have to pay tax on those sales, AND his stuff will be sold at fire sale prices, I'm not sure he will be able to pay those DESERVED penalties. They aren't really just penalties either...he RIPPED off New York, and he OWES that money.
He's in deep sh!t. The ONLY way he gets out of this is if a billionaire friend of his (Elon Musk perhaps) steps up and pays what he owes. That could happen, but no one has stepped to the plate yet. In any event, we need to be VERY clear about where he gets any money that is used to pay this fee. Trump doesn't have the money. You're dead wrong about him. F*ck that guy.
Most of Trump's assets are in properties. Elon Musk can sell stock and have $50 billion by Thursday. Trump's assets are much more illiquid.
As far as property values, you can easily determine how much each property is worth. He owns Trump national Doral Miami worth about $300 million. Mar-a-Lago is worth $200 million. Avenue of the Americas is worth about $2 billion and Trump owns about 30% of that. Trump Tower maybe $500 million. Come on - the guy is loaded.
You continue to be fooled by this conman. A court determined Mar-a-Lago was worth between $18-$26 million...that's likely low and really used for tax payment, but it's not worth anywhere close to $200 million...and of course Trump says it's worth $1.2 BILLION. Ha! Doral isn't worth that either. Also, how much of that does Trump own outright? Meaning, does he still owe money on the purchase price (akin to a mortgage)? He calls himself the "king od debt."
Here is what you are not understanding. Trump contacted 30 creditors to try to give him a bond for the $454 million he owes. NONE of them would do it. Why not? They would have made a TRUCKLOAD on that IF Trump was good for it and paid it back. He's not good for it. They know it. Trump owes $100 MILLION on Trump Tower. He doesn't own it outright. He hardly owns anything outright as he takes loans against everything so he can sh!t in a gold toilet.
We will see how loaded he is. My guess is that he's going to have to sell just about everything he owes, and it still might not satisfy the penalty, because he just doesn't own enough of those properties for the sales to raise that money. I'm not sure what happens then.
When you consider he doesn't own 100% of anything, when he DOES sell (well, it will be Leticia James doing the selling), he'll have to pay tax on those sales, AND his stuff will be sold at fire sale prices, I'm not sure he will be able to pay those DESERVED penalties. They aren't really just penalties either...he RIPPED off New York, and he OWES that money.
He's in deep sh!t. The ONLY way he gets out of this is if a billionaire friend of his (Elon Musk perhaps) steps up and pays what he owes. That could happen, but no one has stepped to the plate yet. In any event, we need to be VERY clear about where he gets any money that is used to pay this fee. Trump doesn't have the money. You're dead wrong about him. F*ck that guy.
Flagpole - do you not understand each county's appraisal district will report the value of each property? It is not Trump making up this stuff. The appraisal district reports the value of a property and everything else. Again, it is not Trump pulling out these values out of his arse.
Most of Trump's assets are in properties. Elon Musk can sell stock and have $50 billion by Thursday. Trump's assets are much more illiquid.
As far as property values, you can easily determine how much each property is worth. He owns Trump national Doral Miami worth about $300 million. Mar-a-Lago is worth $200 million. Avenue of the Americas is worth about $2 billion and Trump owns about 30% of that. Trump Tower maybe $500 million. Come on - the guy is loaded.
You continue to be fooled by this conman. A court determined Mar-a-Lago was worth between $18-$26 million...that's likely low and really used for tax payment, but it's not worth anywhere close to $200 million...and of course Trump says it's worth $1.2 BILLION. Ha! Doral isn't worth that either. Also, how much of that does Trump own outright? Meaning, does he still owe money on the purchase price (akin to a mortgage)? He calls himself the "king od debt."
Here is what you are not understanding. Trump contacted 30 creditors to try to give him a bond for the $454 million he owes. NONE of them would do it. Why not? They would have made a TRUCKLOAD on that IF Trump was good for it and paid it back. He's not good for it. They know it. Trump owes $100 MILLION on Trump Tower. He doesn't own it outright. He hardly owns anything outright as he takes loans against everything so he can sh!t in a gold toilet.
We will see how loaded he is. My guess is that he's going to have to sell just about everything he owes, and it still might not satisfy the penalty, because he just doesn't own enough of those properties for the sales to raise that money. I'm not sure what happens then.
When you consider he doesn't own 100% of anything, when he DOES sell (well, it will be Leticia James doing the selling), he'll have to pay tax on those sales, AND his stuff will be sold at fire sale prices, I'm not sure he will be able to pay those DESERVED penalties. They aren't really just penalties either...he RIPPED off New York, and he OWES that money.
He's in deep sh!t. The ONLY way he gets out of this is if a billionaire friend of his (Elon Musk perhaps) steps up and pays what he owes. That could happen, but no one has stepped to the plate yet. In any event, we need to be VERY clear about where he gets any money that is used to pay this fee. Trump doesn't have the money. You're dead wrong about him. F*ck that guy.
Let me think about it ... should I go with a journalist in Ohio estimating his net worth or maybe the best financial magazine in the world estimating his net worth. Will go with the latter. Nothing against Toledo though.
Most of Trump's assets are in properties. Elon Musk can sell stock and have $50 billion by Thursday. Trump's assets are much more illiquid.
As far as property values, you can easily determine how much each property is worth. He owns Trump national Doral Miami worth about $300 million. Mar-a-Lago is worth $200 million. Avenue of the Americas is worth about $2 billion and Trump owns about 30% of that. Trump Tower maybe $500 million. Come on - the guy is loaded.
If that were true. Lenders would love to lend against all those properties. But they won’t because they are leveraged through the roof. Which is another way of saying that his lenders own those properties.
CORRECT! As recently as a few weeks ago, Trump's lawyers were saying he had the cash and could pay it. BS. Trump doesn't even tell the truth to his lawyers. He's a fraud. He's a liar. This is just the beginning of us finally having the curtain pulled back. He's a loser. The biggest mistake he ever made was running for President. By doing that, he put a spotlight on his criminality. He probably could have taken his criminal ways to his grave, but he thought he was impervious. He's not. He's an idiot. He's a criminal, and he's getting what's coming to him...and it's going to keep on coming. F*ck that guy.
If that were true. Lenders would love to lend against all those properties. But they won’t because they are leveraged through the roof. Which is another way of saying that his lenders own those properties.
CORRECT! As recently as a few weeks ago, Trump's lawyers were saying he had the cash and could pay it. BS. Trump doesn't even tell the truth to his lawyers. He's a fraud. He's a liar. This is just the beginning of us finally having the curtain pulled back. He's a loser. The biggest mistake he ever made was running for President. By doing that, he put a spotlight on his criminality. He probably could have taken his criminal ways to his grave, but he thought he was impervious. He's not. He's an idiot. He's a criminal, and he's getting what's coming to him...and it's going to keep on coming. F*ck that guy.
You have been saying that crap for 7 years and he is about to be re-elected president of the United States of America! LOL. Take that, Flagpole.
You continue to be fooled by this conman. A court determined Mar-a-Lago was worth between $18-$26 million...that's likely low and really used for tax payment, but it's not worth anywhere close to $200 million...and of course Trump says it's worth $1.2 BILLION. Ha! Doral isn't worth that either. Also, how much of that does Trump own outright? Meaning, does he still owe money on the purchase price (akin to a mortgage)? He calls himself the "king od debt."
Here is what you are not understanding. Trump contacted 30 creditors to try to give him a bond for the $454 million he owes. NONE of them would do it. Why not? They would have made a TRUCKLOAD on that IF Trump was good for it and paid it back. He's not good for it. They know it. Trump owes $100 MILLION on Trump Tower. He doesn't own it outright. He hardly owns anything outright as he takes loans against everything so he can sh!t in a gold toilet.
We will see how loaded he is. My guess is that he's going to have to sell just about everything he owes, and it still might not satisfy the penalty, because he just doesn't own enough of those properties for the sales to raise that money. I'm not sure what happens then.
When you consider he doesn't own 100% of anything, when he DOES sell (well, it will be Leticia James doing the selling), he'll have to pay tax on those sales, AND his stuff will be sold at fire sale prices, I'm not sure he will be able to pay those DESERVED penalties. They aren't really just penalties either...he RIPPED off New York, and he OWES that money.
He's in deep sh!t. The ONLY way he gets out of this is if a billionaire friend of his (Elon Musk perhaps) steps up and pays what he owes. That could happen, but no one has stepped to the plate yet. In any event, we need to be VERY clear about where he gets any money that is used to pay this fee. Trump doesn't have the money. You're dead wrong about him. F*ck that guy.
Flagpole - do you not understand each county's appraisal district will report the value of each property? It is not Trump making up this stuff. The appraisal district reports the value of a property and everything else. Again, it is not Trump pulling out these values out of his arse.
INCORRECT! Forbes has always said that it relies mostly on self-reporting. They aren't delving into each person on their top 500 list and going to county assessments.
Again, if Trump is worth what you think he is worth, then lenders would be lining up to secure this bond for him. They know better. You've been fooled.
I mostly agree that gutting the RNC is a bad idea for the GOP
EXCEPT
Have to remember how Trump plans to get elected: If he loses in the real world, he will absolutely clog the legal system with hundreds of lawsuits against everyone who touches a ballot. I mean everyone. It will be absolute chaos, and remember he appointed a bunch of unqualified hack judges last time. Several of them will agree to throw out election results on Trump's orders, giving fuel to the coup.
The intent, of course, is to stall the vote count to prevent the final count of the electoral votes, so the election gets thrown to the House and it will elect Trump, against the will of the American people.
I'm sure focusing the RNC on planning, paying for and coordinating the court-based coup attempt is the goal here. Trump doesn't care about anything but that, since his freedom is at stake.
Have to judge everything trump does by that strategy and I'm sure this fits in.
He is in full desperation mode and the rest of his life may depend on the outcome of the election. It's like a giant binary play here. So I agree he will do anything, and openly if needed, to grab power. However, given he is not the incumbent, once the election issue gets thrown to the house the DOJ will have to bring down the hammer on Rs complicit with the election fraud scheme. In the end most Rs won't fall on their swords to that degree for Trump. Democracy will barely hold again.
You have this weird faith that eventually the Republicans will decide enough is enough with Trump.
there is absolutely zero sign this will happen. Repubs will back any and all acts by Trump to seize power.
The House would elect Trump without a doubt. The DOj couldn’t stop any of it. We’ve seen how trump is able to clog the legal system. He will do it again if course.
unless trump wins outright. Then no lawsuits. So sick in the head.
I mostly agree that gutting the RNC is a bad idea for the GOP
EXCEPT
Have to remember how Trump plans to get elected: If he loses in the real world, he will absolutely clog the legal system with hundreds of lawsuits against everyone who touches a ballot. I mean everyone. It will be absolute chaos, and remember he appointed a bunch of unqualified hack judges last time. Several of them will agree to throw out election results on Trump's orders, giving fuel to the coup.
The intent, of course, is to stall the vote count to prevent the final count of the electoral votes, so the election gets thrown to the House and it will elect Trump, against the will of the American people.
I'm sure focusing the RNC on planning, paying for and coordinating the court-based coup attempt is the goal here. Trump doesn't care about anything but that, since his freedom is at stake.
Have to judge everything trump does by that strategy and I'm sure this fits in.
He is in full desperation mode and the rest of his life may depend on the outcome of the election. It's like a giant binary play here. So I agree he will do anything, and openly if needed, to grab power. However, given he is not the incumbent, once the election issue gets thrown to the house the DOJ will have to bring down the hammer on Rs complicit with the election fraud scheme. In the end most Rs won't fall on their swords to that degree for Trump. Democracy will barely hold again.
With this in mind, and as Trevor has mentioned before... what an amazing opportunity for the majority of voters. We get to:
Directly say whether trump goes to jail and/or is financially ruined
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We get to keep him away from the WH
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We get to plunge the Rs into a civil war (Trump party vs RINOs).
Flagpole - do you not understand each county's appraisal district will report the value of each property? It is not Trump making up this stuff. The appraisal district reports the value of a property and everything else. Again, it is not Trump pulling out these values out of his arse.
INCORRECT! Forbes has always said that it relies mostly on self-reporting. They aren't delving into each person on their top 500 list and going to county assessments.
Again, if Trump is worth what you think he is worth, then lenders would be lining up to secure this bond for him. They know better. You've been fooled.
Flagpole, you seem to know nothing about most everything. Most of the big-time billionaires in the Forbes 500 have their wealth in equities. it is very easy to determine their wealth. Please quit saying stuff that doesn't make sense. But I think you are a swell guy!