Atantic Region XC - D3

I'm not trying to compare times...I'm just saying that Ivory was IC's ninth runner at Paul Short, and Schallek didn't even make their travel squad. So there are eight runners from IC who would (theoretically of course) place between Plattsburg's first and fifth.

what he was saying is that Ithaca rested their varsity guys (I think their top 10 rested), he's not comparing the hamilton times with the paul short times

And Ithaca smoked Oneonta State at Paul Short. So it doesn't look like Dragons will get that tenth spot!

Did a little bird tell you that?

can you explain that logic one more time? I'm not seeing how you're coming to that conclusion.

sorry let me be more specific...about comparing Ithaca and Plattsburgh and Ithaca having 8 guys in Plattsburgh's top 5. I'm not seeing the logic there from your previous post.

No problem...

Ithaca's ninth runner at Paul Short was Brian Ivory. At Hamilton, Ivory was IC's second runner, with only Schallek (who didn't run at Lehigh) in front of him. This means eight runners (at least) from Ithaca did not run at Hamilton. Ivory finished in front of Pburg's fifth man, so if eight IC runners were in front of Ivory at Lehigh, it would stand to reason there would be eight runners in front of him (and Plattsburg's fifth) at another meet.

Again, it's hard to compare two teams when they don't go head to head at full strength, but I just wanted to point out that "here it is" wasn't being too thorough in his reasoning of why Pburg should have been ranked above Ithaca.

(I also realize the futility of discussing which team is going to place tenth in the region.)

some people are hills runners, perhaps that schallek is a hill runner. But you have to admit that Plattsburgh is improving from earlier this year 5th man at 2820 at hamilton vs 5th man at 2835 on their home course. I would subtract a healthy minute from the hamilton time to equal their home course based off of DeShane, since he is as consistent as a clock's second hand. Lets not forget that last years 10th place team's 5th man was 28:09 and averaged 27:09. This could not have been expected throughout the year as the region was deep then as well. But due to teams racing too hard too early, come November Fredonia was able to get 10th when they really should not have been if more talented teams peaked better. Once again people will see this in November, I guarantee. Plattsburgh will be top 10, Ithaca will not be.

alright that sounds like sound logic, thanks

Fianlly, a post with some logic to back it up.

Brockport, Geneseo, UoR @ UoR

TCNJ, SLU, RIT @ Albany

NYU @ Wisconsin Oshkosh

Plattsburgh @ Johnson State Invite

RPI @ Plansky Ivite (Williams)

Ithaca @ Harry F. Anderson invite (Roberts Wesleyan)

NYU @ Wisconsin Oshkosh is pretty interesting hopefully NYU does well there representing the Atlantic.

Albany Invite should be interesting as well. It'll be good to see TCNJ and RIT go at it and see what SLU can muster too.

Wow, so that is why NYU has not raced much all season, they are saving money to go out to the Great Lakes to race the best. Possibly a new format for a season's schedule with this new at large system. If they beat big teams out there they will earn the region an at large bid pretty easily, and it will help any teams that finish close to them at regionals. This entire region should be hoping they represent us well out there. Good thinking Nick McDonough. This could be the meet that puts NYU up in front of Cortland and Geneseo in the National polls, which is where they should be.

Well why don't you cry about it, saddle bags?

Good thing SUNYAC Championship wasn't tommorrow.... would be a crazy race if teams could get there...

http://www.wkbw.com/Story.aspx?type=ln&NStoryID=15436

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WEATHER/10/13/ny.snow.ap/index.html

wow...all of that stuff will probably be there next week and even if it begins to melt, I'd say it's safe to bet the course will not be very dry. Oh boy

Melted, wet, heavy snow and rain all week. Make sure you guys bring extra long spikes for SUNYACs.

Hey I just found this on mensracing.com Its just a light hearted article about the Ithaca guys. Mens racing only does national news so I thought it was pretty cool to see someone from the Atlantic region represented.