"My guess is that before this is over, we will be hearing testimony from Ornato, Engle, and Meadows. This is explosive stuff. If Cassidy is making this up, they will need to say that. If she isn't they will have to corroborate. I know her. I don't think she is lying."
Carmine you are insufferable. There are dozens of pages on this thread, each of which contains some sort of evidence that you refuse to acknowledge when you make outlandish claims like this one. You just cherry pick whatever info you gleam that fits the narrative you're pushing and regurgitate it ad nauseum. You would get utterly eviscerated in any real debate.
It's all BS. There was no insurrection. Maybe Rudy was drunk - who cares? Meanwhile the Hillary funded and FBI aided Russiagate lies that led the FBI to spy on candidate Trump in 2016 and the Hunder Biden no show jobs in Ukraine get ignored.
Carmine you are insufferable. There are dozens of pages on this thread, each of which contains some sort of evidence that you refuse to acknowledge when you make outlandish claims like this one. You just cherry pick whatever info you gleam that fits the narrative you're pushing and regurgitate it ad nauseum. You would get utterly eviscerated in any real debate.
It's all BS. There was no insurrection. Maybe Rudy was drunk - who cares? Meanwhile the Hillary funded and FBI aided Russiagate lies that led the FBI to spy on candidate Trump in 2016 and the Hunder Biden no show jobs in Ukraine get ignored.
Carmine you are insufferable. There are dozens of pages on this thread, each of which contains some sort of evidence that you refuse to acknowledge when you make outlandish claims like this one. You just cherry pick whatever info you gleam that fits the narrative you're pushing and regurgitate it ad nauseum. You would get utterly eviscerated in any real debate.
It's all BS. There was no insurrection. Maybe Rudy was drunk - who cares? Meanwhile the Hillary funded and FBI aided Russiagate lies that led the FBI to spy on candidate Trump in 2016 and the Hunder Biden no show jobs in Ukraine get ignored.
It's pathetic.
Where do you get the user name "carmine"? Is it a special term for some kind of mental disorder? If it isn't, it should be.
You're a joke man, you can't even come up with your own arguments. Also the premise of this tweet is entirely false. The investigations weren't "going nowhere;" there has been pretty damning evidence presented in all the sessions so far.
What do we have?
A lunging Trump?
A drunk Rudy G?
Get your facts straight. Giuliani was not even near the Limo when Trump attacked the Secret Service agent. Giuliani's whereabouts at that critical juncture are unknown. Giuliani is unaccounted for. I'm not saying he absconded. I'm just saying we don't know where he was or how drunk he was at the relevant time.
Trump is innocent I tell ya! He is a God fearing Christian that only wanted the best for the country. He gave up everything to be President as a huge sacrifice! He was worth 9 billion dollars and decided to run for President because he loves me and you. He would never do anything like those evil RINOs are claiming.
Get your facts straight. Giuliani was not even near the Limo when Trump attacked the Secret Service agent. Giuliani's whereabouts at that critical juncture are unknown. Giuliani is unaccounted for. I'm not saying he absconded. I'm just saying we don't know where he was or how drunk he was at the relevant time.
Huh?
The big gotchas from this show have been Rudy G was allegedly drunk -- so what -- and that Trump allegedly lunged at a secret service agent per a witness who was not present.
As far as I know nobody claimed Rudy G was near the limo; I sure didn't.
It remains to be seen. THE SCOTUS has not weighed in on federal lunging since the Patty Hearst cases. But certainly lunging at a Secret Service agent driving a federally registered limousine with intent to assault and pummel said agent while also inhibiting egress within said limo is a federal crime of some sort.
Remember Patrick "Irish Flu" Kennedy when he went upside the head of that DC traffic cop? That was federal lunging, although he later pled to simple mocking of a federal agent. Maybe Trump's lawyers can engineer a deal like that. It's too early to speculate, though.
Get your facts straight. Giuliani was not even near the Limo when Trump attacked the Secret Service agent. Giuliani's whereabouts at that critical juncture are unknown. Giuliani is unaccounted for. I'm not saying he absconded. I'm just saying we don't know where he was or how drunk he was at the relevant time.
The big gotchas from this show have been Rudy G was allegedly drunk -- so what -- and that Trump allegedly lunged at a secret service agent per a witness who was not present.
For the last time, those aren't the big gotchas. Those are the pieces YOU are fixating on and trying to use to derail/deflect the conversation.
Get your facts straight. Giuliani was not even near the Limo when Trump attacked the Secret Service agent. Giuliani's whereabouts at that critical juncture are unknown. Giuliani is unaccounted for. I'm not saying he absconded. I'm just saying we don't know where he was or how drunk he was at the relevant time.
Huh?
The big gotchas from this show have been Rudy G was allegedly drunk -- so what -- and that Trump allegedly lunged at a secret service agent per a witness who was not present.
As far as I know nobody claimed Rudy G was near the limo; I sure didn't.
This show is a joke
The big gotchas are in the area of Trump's knowledge of the rally the weapons, his encouragement of the march on the Capital, his delay in stemming violence, his statement that he didn't care if they were armed because they weren't there to hurt him, as well as his knowledge and approval of the fake elector scam. Trump, Rudy, Meadows and Eastman are all in the frame for various conspiracy charges.
And it is obvious that no one should accept legal analysis from carmine9.
“I don’t f***ing care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me,” Trump said. “Take the f***ing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in."
The big gotchas from this show have been Rudy G was allegedly drunk -- so what -- and that Trump allegedly lunged at a secret service agent per a witness who was not present.
For the last time, those aren't the big gotchas. Those are the pieces YOU are fixating on and trying to use to derail/deflect the conversation.
Exactly! Typical Fox News, right wing media MO. Pick something tiny and insignificant and ignore the total tsunami of evidence of corruption and illegality.
I get a kick out Hannity saying 25th Amendment was in play for the CRAY, CRAY. Oops!
Get your facts straight. Giuliani was not even near the Limo when Trump attacked the Secret Service agent. Giuliani's whereabouts at that critical juncture are unknown. Giuliani is unaccounted for. I'm not saying he absconded. I'm just saying we don't know where he was or how drunk he was at the relevant time.
Huh?
The big gotchas from this show have been Rudy G was allegedly drunk -- so what -- and that Trump allegedly lunged at a secret service agent per a witness who was not present.
As far as I know nobody claimed Rudy G was near the limo; I sure didn't.
This show is a joke
Wrong. Trump would not have allowed Giuliani in the Limo reeking of booze and sauce. Again, no one knows where in the name of god that Giuliani even was during the critical time. He could have been totally loaded off-site somewhere. We have no idea.
We have to consider Trump's motive before the assault. Clearly he wanted to commandeer the Limo and get down to the Freedom Rally. If the Secret Service went rogue and refused to drive the President, was Trump within his federal and Constitutional authority to sock the agent one and take the wheel? If the answer is YES, then punching out the Secret Service agent becomes secondary to carrying out his maxed Presidential duties.
I have no doubt, if Trump was driven to the capital the coup would have been successful. The votes would not have been certified. The election would have been kicked back to congress.