2600 bro wrote:
joed|rttt wrote:
Some data from Europe:
Country Vaccination Rate Weekly Case Rate Weekly death rate
Gibraltar 303 doses/ 100 people 4,573 per million 30 per million
Iceland 201 doses/ 100 people 2,569 per million 0 per million
Malta 192 doses/ 100 people 1,381 per million 5 per million
Channel Islands 190 doses/ 100 people 8,139 per million 17 per million
Portugal 180 doses/ 100 people 2,708 per million 12 per million
UK 178 doses/ 100 people 5,200 per million 12 per million
Denmark 176 doses/ 100 people 7,777 per million 12 per million
Ireland 172 doses/ 100 people 5,854 per million 16 per million
ltaly 169 doses/ 100 people 1,930 per million 11 per million
Belgium 169 doses/ 100 people 7,461 per million 24 per million
Austria 168 doses/ 100 people 3,255 per million 40 per million
Spain 166 doses/ 100 people 1,396 per million 4 per million
Norway 166 doses/ 100 people 5,909 per million 8 per million
...
Sweden 163 doses/ 100 people 1,169 per million 0.5 per million
and for comparison
USA 146 doses/ 100 people 2,138 per million 23 per million
High vaccination rate does not necessarily mean low case rate or low death rate. High infection rate early in the pandemic (Malta, Italy, Spain, Sweden) = lower infection rate and lower death rate in later waves due to natural / hybrid immunity.
Joe youre making the same errors that stupid "vaccine rate death rate correlation" paper did. If you take one week slices, you can find data anywhere to support your thesis thanks to high dynamic heterogeneity in COVID cases/deaths over time. Waves come and go. You have to dance around the primary observational data that if one is vaccinated they are ~10-20X less likely to die from COVID 19, without age/gender matching!
If you said 3-4X, you would be more believable, as there is actual data to support that claim. There is no data to support the outsized numbers you are alleging. You need to acknowledge the limitations of the vaccines. Having experienced a breakthrough infection firsthand, I am intimately aware of their shortcomings. Boosters work, and maybe achieve those lofty numbers (for a while). They likely won't do much against Omicron. You will eventually catch COVID, and the hybrid immunity will ultimately prove far more robust than the solely vaccinated immunity that you have been relying upon.