Atantic Region XC - D3

Albany is DI, if memory serves, but I'm sure you could help them. At most DIII schools you would be a god (or at least a demigod).

If you're a strong student (and assuming you're a NYer), investigate the state schools at Cornell.

Or, if you're a strong student and committed to DIII, check NYU, which is expensive (like other private schools) but has some great merit scholarships (i.e. financial aid beyond need).

Plattsburgh's coach is young...

He seems to have taken over and done a good job for them as Deshane has sustained his success. They didnt get any real stud freshmen this year so dont know about his recruiting. Deshane and Asher are both seniors which will make Plattsburgh really have to bring in a strong class next year in order to stay where they are in the region.

Oswego is a senior laden team with 4 of their top 7 being seniors and will be getting a new coach as Coach Boyce is leaving at the end of the cross-country season.

Plattsburgh and Oswego would both be good fits for you if you're trying to help build up a good team to a great team that can compete with Geneseo, SLU, Cortland, Brockport etc..

just remember Deshane was real good long before this coach. Lynch will have to prove himself the next 3 years, recruiting against the other SUNY's for NY kids, and keeping the program at a high level. There is alot more to coaching than managing one stud. I am not saying that he isnt or wont be good, lets just see him recruit and build his own deshane.

SLU, Cortland, NYU and Geneseo all have good coaches, you should figure out what your looking for academically, and what atmosphere (city or sticks) you want. Then contact coaches, most d3's want most kids who can break 10:00 for 3200

Pretty much any of the top 10 teams in the region have quality coaches with very good to good athletes. First thing you should do is determine your major(s). Check out each schools website to see which have your major and then contact those coaches. Visit the school, talk with the coach, the team, etc. Good luck.

Atlantic Region wrote:

Pretty much any of the top 10 teams in the region have quality coaches with very good to good athletes. First thing you should do is determine your major(s). Check out each schools website to see which have your major and then contact those coaches. Visit the school, talk with the coach, the team, etc. Good luck.

Solid advice, especially for the DIII level.

his own deshane? What about Wiszowaty (runner up 10k), Busby (4th XC, 5th 10k), Recny (dropped almost 2 min this season), Asher (SUNYAC 10k champ, 12th Atlantic Regional)? All people looking to make a splash on the national scene or have already, all people who were not even close before he got here. And to have DeShane drop 30 seconds in an 8k and 4 seconds in an already smokin mile. Wake up and smell the coffee, coach is doing a great job. Also, so you know, its hard to recruit when you get a job in September and have nobody on the page until October and have NEVER coached before. Don't judge based off of this past year, wait until '07 recruit class.

Come to Plattsburgh, No other school in NY has the soft surface running we have!

yeah, snow IS pretty soft...

Every SUNYAC school minus New Paltz is in Upstate or western NY and gets plent of soft, squishy snow for your running pleasure. The majority (Geneseo, Buff St, Oswego, Fredonia and Brockport) are in the lake effect snowbelt known as the Buffalo-Rochester region and get more than Plattsburgh. On a region note, it is funny how just one bust out race by a one Shamus Nally throws Cortland from #4 to #1 by a great margin over NYU and TCNJ. The question is...will Geneseo's and Cortland's freshman crash after months of 90+ mile weeks? And...Will NYU make a statement before regionals? Now's a couple down weeks sandwiched inbetween conferences week, states/ecac's and the regional meet to end it all.

No they will not crash because they do not do 90 mile weeks they do 130 mile weeks. This creates what I have dubbed the superman effect resulting in national titles and an immunity to the very common "pansy-ass" syndrome contagious to the rest of the region.

2005 Mets

Columbia JV 45

NYu 87

Marist 116

Iona 124

Manhattan 146

Rutgers 159

Fordham 184

Southern Connecticut 194

CW Post 281

Seton Hall 285

Stony Brook 300

LIU 320

Farleigh Dickinson 347

Wagner 362

St. Francis 423

2006 Mets

Columbia JV 47

Marist 83

NYU 89

Fordham 124

Southern Connecticut 140

Rutgers 157

Manhattan 207

CW Post 221

Seton Hall 240

Farleigh Dickinson 277

Wagner 283

St. FRancis 319

LIU 320

A couple Columbia runners (Kastorff and Hetherington) ran both Paul Short and Mets at Van Cortland

Kastorff ran :04 faster at Mets

Hetherington ran :03 slower at Mets

you should also look at the open race at PS, and see what a few Columbia guys ran there, then at Mets. PS is a way faster course and race than any meet at VCP, which means Columbia and Marist both ran WAY better than they ran at PS. Segni from marist had an off day at PS, and Marist didnt run our two freshman at PS which made a huge difference for us.

You were right 'present'. NYUs run at METs did not help them in the polls, but the polls aren't the end all either. This coming week won't reveal much, aside from NYU flying to UW-Oshkosh to mix it up with #1 Calvin, #3 Oshkosh, #7 Haverford, #15 Stevens Point, #22 Depauw, #25 Augustana, #32 Chicago, (#35 last wk) Carlton, Wash U and Emory. Should be one heck of a non-championship meet.

Other meets at UR, Roberts Wesleyan and Albany. Albany will have RIT and SLU going head to head, while Geneseo will be alone, being chased by Allegheny and Brockport at UR.

If i'm not mistaken TCNJ will also be at Albany...

chances are the UR meet won't turn up anything, both brockport and Geneseo, and sometimes UR don't run full squads, so it'll be B-teams all around.

Let us remember, the polls are voted on by 8 coaches, from all across the country. To assume any of them know what the times at Vanny mean is ridiculous. NYU men moved up in the regional poll, but down in the national poll? how does their region rep let that happen? 8 people vote, 8 bias'.

You think the national poll is bias. How about the regional poll itself. This weekend plattsburg lit up ithaca yet ithaca remains well ahead of them in the polls. I don't know and don't care if ithaca ran their full squad. They have looked completly unimpressive this year. I agree that NYU deserves to be ranked higer than geneseo in the polls. They ran impressive times this weekend at VCP with hany and williams seeming to have off days.

This weekends will be the first time RIT, TCNJ, and SLU face off. And considering they are ranked 4-6 in the region, it appears that these 3 teams are going to be battling at regionals for 1 or maybe 2 spots to go to nationals. This race should say a lot. Most importantly SLU needs to perform because they haven't showed anything or raced anybody since getting beat pretty handily by geneseo at oswego.

Wow...IC is 9th and Plattsburg is 10th...20 points to 16...that's a huge difference. I don't see what's so special about Plattsburg's team, aside from Deshane of course. He had a great run at Hamilton, but 26:51, 27:51, 28:17, and 28:27 for the rest of your top five? That's pretty poor. That's still a minute and a half difference between their second and fifth. Based on results from Paul Short, Ithaca placed two non-varsity runners in Pburg's top five.

the word is that CNJ should finally have a good team race. but we'll wait and see.