no need for doom and gloom. California will still get 1 at-large, Rich is just saying teams need to improve and show better performances coming now to post season.
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stilltoearly wrote:
What also matters is performance at the state meet. If 3rd teams performance at the state meet is the similar to San Clemente 2022 or Great Oak 2022, which later went on to place 6th and 7th at NXN, then they 100% deserves a NXN bid. But the committee just found their excuse for not giving any at-large bid to any California teams this year. This and Granada 2022 with a solid state performance but only placing 16th at NXN.
Truth be told, the committee would have much preferred to give a bid to Rocky Mountain last year over Granada. They just couldn't find any logical reasons to do so. Rocky Mountain's performance at NXR Northwest was much worse than Granada's performance at CIF state. Rocky Mountain also barely beat southwest teams that went 10th and 15th at NXR Southwest at Bob Firman.
The committee prefers to give bids to states that have never gone to NXN. That will include that teams such as Louisiana (Jesuit LA), Arkansas (Bentonville AK), Idaho (CDA). So chances are pretty bad for a NXN bid this year.
NXN really isn't the end all be all. Now that runninglane is in the picture, I hope our top 3-6th teams go switch their goals from making NXN to winning runninglane. Honestly, the winner of runninglane deserves a final ranking in the top 10.
As long as the RL course gets treated better by the organizers. Last year it looked worse than a World XC course with mud being like 50% of the course. The NXN course in a rain storm doesn't even look that bad.
Will still be difficult to justify putting the winner in top 10 if the race only draws a bunch of 3-6 teams from every other state. If the top 20ish teams are at NXN, I don't see how you become top 10 for winning against the 20-40 teams. You would need a bunch of NXN qualifying teams to ditch it for RL to even out the fields to crown the RL winner as a top 10 team.
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stilltoearly wrote:
no need for doom and gloom. California will still get 1 at-large, Rich is just saying teams need to improve and show better performances coming now to post season.
Clovis will be a good indicator of how good the top CA teams are because many people on the SOP will finally get to run varsity
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WaitForMoreData wrote:
Hobby10k wrote:
New PrepCalTrack SS rankings
Big Changes:
Oaks Christian Boys up a ton to 3rd and they are essentially tied with JSerra based on Woodbridge results for 2nd. Imagine if they had pickleball guy, they might have won state. St Francis looks like they'll coast to an easy Div 4 win.
Beckman up a ton after great Woodbridge, maybe a sleeper state merge NXN qualifier threat?
While those are the correct top 3 for Div. 4, I wonder if this takes into account that both Oaks Christian and St. Francis looked great at Woodbridge partially because of the scoring was wrong. Both teams had a ghost runner in the results that significantly improved their standing. The scoring is still wrong on the Woodbridge invitational site. Or maybe they are not taking JSerra's transfer into account because he is not eligible yet.
Still, those are the top 3 teams in Div. 4, but once JSerra's transfer is eligible they are the team to beat for sure.
On athletic.net, the ghost runners from these teams have been removed, but they haven't updated the team scores. But what you can do is select each team to see their scoring runners, and then come up with the correct team times. Which I get to be:
75:07 St. Francis
75:56 JSerra
77:32 Oaks ChristianSo based on Woodbridge, St Francis deserves the #1 ranking in D4. If transfers change the order, that will take care of itself in a later ranking based on real results.
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Davis & Jesuit CAClovis East brings their 2-5 runners back next year00
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St Francis results. 4 under 15:40. They could use a 5th runner though
St Francis is a team that took 10th in the merge at the CIF state meet last year and only graduated 2 guys
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“And don't discount Newbury Park, either, which finished just a point behind JSerra last year for third-place.”10 -
NP girls team is ranked 4th in D2 here. Boys team ranked second
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Vaingt wrote:
NP girls team is ranked 4th in D2 here. Boys team ranked second
Ranking are rankings. The girls might not qualify for the CIF state meet. They just got so bad this year. I just looked and they were dead last in JV yesterday. I’m in the Bay Area and have heard about major drama on their team this year. I don’t think this new coach will last very long. It seems kids are dropping like flys.
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Ventura boys team has a large 4-5 gap here
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Noah Sloan should be put in the varsity race he would of have finished ahead of both the sophomores. Don't know why Ventura is insistent on only racing 6 runners in varsity.
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mythoughzz wrote:
Noah Sloan should be put in the varsity race he would of have finished ahead of both the sophomores. Don't know why Ventura is insistent on only racing 6 runners in varsity.
I think you meant Jonah Sloan. The 4-5 gap still would have been kind of big. But Noah usually finishes closer to the 4th guy than he did in this race
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I really don’t see anyone being able to take down Jserra at Clovis invite. It will be crazy to see them as the top team in the CA state meet merge! it’s a new Era in CA XC
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Trabuco Hills
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is emmanuel perez injured? I didn't see him run his recent league race
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hopefully not. I noticed cathedral didn't race there varsity squad today at the bell jeff invite. they’re most likely saving themselves up for clovis
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These Cathedral runners are way too ambitious with their mileage. Omar (their number 3) went up to 80s with less than a year of running and quickly got hurt. who the heck knows what perez was doing but testing the waters with high mileage is meant for college. High school should be max 60 a week.
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Props to them, their top 3 really put in work, but also have to do it safely and smart.
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