"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

fisky wrote:

fisky wrote:

I urge everyone on this thread to read this book. The ebook is only $2.99. Just put aside your beliefs one way or the other and read the book. It is HEAVILY sourced... 450 citations in the first chapter alone. I'm amazed at what I've read so far.

Please. Read it.

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Anthony-Fauci-Democracy-Childrens-ebook/dp/B08X5YWRRP/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1638663452&sr=8-1

I am up to page 110. Pages 88-110 document an orchestrated campaign to discredit HCQ. YOU MUST READ THIS BOOK! I'm on phone so I can't type much. Please... Buy it. Read it. Post a link to it on Facebook.

Thanks Fisky. I haven’t read the book, but I will get it. HCQ was discredited by mainstream medical journals because it was administered alone and at too high a dose in order to undermine it and enable side effects. HCQ alone is pretty useless. But, when administered with elemental zinc, it’s very potent, because it helps shuttle zinc into the cell. Extracellular zinc is useless, but intracellular zinc inhibits the Coronaviral RNA polymerase, stopping replication in its tracks. HCQ isn’t the only zinc ionophore of course, but it’s a potent one. A bullet needs a gun to work.

But, of course, there are many other therapeutics that mitigate this disease, so we don’t need to keep talking about HCQ and IVM.

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

fisky wrote:

[quote]fisky wrote:

I urge everyone on this thread to read this book. The ebook is only $2.99. Just put aside your beliefs one way or the other and read the book. It is HEAVILY sourced... 450 citations in the first chapter alone. I'm amazed at what I've read so far.

Please. Read it.

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Anthony-Fauci-Democracy-Childrens-ebook/dp/B08X5YWRRP/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1638663452&sr=8-1

I am up to page 110. Pages 88-110 document an orchestrated campaign to discredit HCQ. YOU MUST READ THIS BOOK! I'm on phone so I can't type much. Please... Buy it. Read it. Post a link to it on Facebook.

Fisky - you've got to listen to this interview by Tom Woods with the publisher of the book. Despite being boycotted by the book stores & censored by the MSM, it's the best selling book in America! And according to the publisher, it may end up being the best selling book in the history of this country! The book is HEAVILY sourced with 2,194 citations!

The corruption with the Pharma-Fauci-Gates alliance over this pandemic is mind boggling!

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

fisky wrote:

I am up to page 110. Pages 88-110 document an orchestrated campaign to discredit HCQ. YOU MUST READ THIS BOOK! I'm on phone so I can't type much. Please... Buy it. Read it. Post a link to it on Facebook.

Fisky - you've got to listen to this interview with the publisher of the book. Despite being boycotted by the book stores & censored by the MSM, it's the best selling book in America! And according to the publisher, it may end up being the best selling book in the history of this country! The book is HEAVILY sourced with 2,194 citations!

The corruption with the Pharma-Fauci-Gates alliance over this pandemic is mind boggling!

Some boycott.

In 5 seconds, I could have bought it on either Amazon or Barnes & Noble.

But, hey, if you have to imagine being persecuted to get through your day, have at it!

Making money off HCQ (failed all large RCTs) in late 2021 is a remarkable accomplishment.

I am impressed with all those involved.

Remember this (17 months ago)...

I wonder who the real scammers and frauds are?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext

The Lily Hammer wrote:

The Lily Hammer wrote:

Why didn't all this "robust protection via natural immunity" prevent the increase in Covid deaths in NY state, from 6.4 (7 day average) on 9/24/20 to 198 on 1/20/21?

And why is it that, currently, as much as 80%-90% of all hospital admissions and deaths due to Covid are unvaccinated people?

BS Stat. They haven't really been tracking breakthrough cases in the US since the spring. Even the few entities that were tracking breakthrough cases stopped when the breakthrough cases started outnumbering unvaccinated cases (plus in the US, very few individuals have their vaccine record in their electronic health record, so breakthrough statistics are deceiving). If you look at data from a country like Israel (pretty much all mRNA vaccines), you get a clearer picture of the reality of the situation. During the peak of Delta in Israel, almost 60% of the hospitalizations were in fully vaccinated individuals.

joed|rtt wrote:

BS Stat. They haven't really been tracking breakthrough cases in the US since the spring. Even the few entities that were tracking breakthrough cases stopped when the breakthrough cases started outnumbering unvaccinated cases (plus in the US, very few individuals have their vaccine record in their electronic health record, so breakthrough statistics are deceiving). If you look at data from a country like Israel (pretty much all mRNA vaccines), you get a clearer picture of the reality of the situation. During the peak of Delta in Israel, almost 60% of the hospitalizations were in fully vaccinated individuals.

https://www.science.org/content/article/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

BS response.

Hospitals and health authorities are tracking vaccination status when someone is hospitalized with Covid or when someone dies of Covid. This would, by definition, include breakthrough cases.

Here is CDC data as of 10/2/21 which compares rates of Covid cases in unvaccinated vs. vaccinated ("breakthrough cases").

The original premise that I responded to (from DanM) was that "robust immunity via natural infection", and not the vaccines, was responsible for the lower death rates in cities hit hard by Covid early on in the pandemic. He hasn't responded yet, but nothing you have said addresses my response, which was that DanM's theory doesn't explain the rise in Covid cases seen in NYS from 9/20-1/21, and also doesn't explain why the overwhelming majority of hospitalizations and deaths from Covid seen currently are among the unvaccinated.

5.8 Million with at least 2 doses out of a total Israeli population of 9.2 Million = 63%

13 out of 21 = 62%

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The ministry said that of the 21 cases, 13 were “fully protected,” which Israel defines as anyone who got a booster shot, or those who have recovered from COVID-19 or received their initial two vaccine doses within the past six months.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-omicron-count-rises-to-21-as-10-more-cases-confirmed/

The CDC data is complete BS. Walensky and Biden are trying to sell a tale to the public, so they are knowingly manipulating the statistics to support their agenda (mainly by ignoring the fact that the vast majority of the public's vaccination status never made it into their electronic medical record because they were vaccinated at a pharmacy, driver thru or community event. That is the reason the CDC data does not sync up with the data from Israel or the UK (where data is centralized).

joed|rtt wrote:

BS Stat. They haven't really been tracking breakthrough cases in the US since the spring. Even the few entities that were tracking breakthrough cases stopped when the breakthrough cases started outnumbering unvaccinated cases (plus in the US, very few individuals have their vaccine record in their electronic health record, so breakthrough statistics are deceiving). If you look at data from a country like Israel (pretty much all mRNA vaccines), you get a clearer picture of the reality of the situation. During the peak of Delta in Israel, almost 60% of the hospitalizations were in fully vaccinated individuals.

https://www.science.org/content/article/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

Nah, the CDC data is correct. Israel was much higher vaxxed so it's easy to succumb to a base-rate fallacy as you often do.

USA just has tons of unvaxxed and vulnerable people -- makes perfect sense that those folks would fill up hospitals. And they did.

All data is suggestive of ~90% protection against severe disease.

Rather funny that you now openly just discard data that disagrees with your priors. Not even making an attempt....

You don't like the CDC?

How about the Texas Department of Health Services? Tell us with a straight face that Greg Abbot is also pushing the Biden/Fauci/Walensky agenda.

"Out of nearly 29,000 Texans who have died from COVID-related illnesses since mid-January, only 8% of them were fully vaccinated against the virus, according to a report detailing the Texas Department of State Health Services’ findings."

joed|rtt wrote:

The CDC data is complete BS. Walensky and Biden are trying to sell a tale to the public, so they are knowingly manipulating the statistics to support their agenda (mainly by ignoring the fact that the vast majority of the public's vaccination status never made it into their electronic medical record because they were vaccinated at a pharmacy, driver thru or community event. That is the reason the CDC data does not sync up with the data from Israel or the UK (where data is centralized).

Funny, I was vaccinated at a community event and a pharmacy and both of those made it onto my EMR?

The CDC data DOES sync up with UK and Israel you just repeatedly, aggressively, and shockingly commit the same base rate fallacies and fall for Simpson's paradox every. time. you analyze data.

Again, the humor behind "I don't like the data therefore I will pretend it's fake" is not lost on me.

People still clinging to the fantasy that the vaxx works are in super denial.

Look around your own life. Watch all the fully vaxxed getting sick.

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

The corruption with the Pharma-Fauci-Gates alliance over this pandemic is mind boggling!

Certainly the solution to this is to give money to the, uh... Kennedys?

Says the guy who repeatedly ignores or smears all data that does not adhere to his worldview.

Who is giving $$ to the Kennedys?

Dishonest much?

RFK Jr. is charging $2.99 for his book on Fauci.

Fauci's book is going for $16.00

Or how about that bastion of godless liberalism, the great State of Wyoming? In bed with Biden/Fauci/Walensky too?

Because the Wyoming Department of Health says that 95% of Covid deaths were of the unvaccinated.

https://kgab.com/nearly-all-covid-related-deaths-in-wyoming-are-now-among-unvaxxed/

I’m prepared to listen but once again old man Dan gets destroyed.