You were dismantled days ago. Now all you have for an argument is "he's too fast to be clean".
You were dismantled days ago. Now all you have for an argument is "he's too fast to be clean".
Torres is the Jamin of the elite world. He complains about how unfair it is for a 41 year old stealing a win from deserving younger guys(much like the older guy/younger girl gym thread).
He whines about a fast last lap in a 13:35 tempo run. Maybe Torres felt like he missed his chance to win a race he didn't run because he picked the easy way. This is similar to the high school #7 guy that would rather run in the JV race so he has a chance to win.
Hey man, I said it is possible. But the USOT 5000m didn't do anything to raise the suspicion any higher, so to believe he is a doper is to believe he's gotten away with if for the better part of two decades. That's a pretty sophisticated regimen for Bernie and James - you're giving them a lot of credit.
Hey man, I said it is possible. But the USOT 5000m didn't do anything to raise the suspicion any higher, so to believe he is a doper is to believe he's gotten away with if for the better part of two decades. That's a pretty sophisticated regimen for Bernie and James - you're giving them a lot of credit.
Yes, I believe they have a very sophisticated regime. Probably like Marion Jones - hgh, insulin, steroids, epo. Remember that she only got caught because of a jealous coach and a wayward syringe.
Policy guy wrote:
You were dismantled days ago. Now all you have for an argument is "he's too fast to be clean".
Same argument. It just seems different because you're a bit slow. You need to stop obsessing over LR posters. I shouldn't be that important to you.
I think what has also helped Lagat is nothing has changed in his life athletically, same sponsor, agent, coach, training setup and no major injuries. Most athletes in the twilight of their careers don't maintain that consistency. Also, one of the downsides of doping as an older athlete is injury, often the dope gives you more power than your body can handle.
What helped and helps him today is EPO, HGH and many other things. I did love those braces a few years ago. Great timing
LocoRuno wrote:
What helped and helps him today is EPO, HGH and many other things. I did love those braces a few years ago. Great timing
Yeah, how dare he want to fix the gap in his teeth that he had as early as I started seeing him in college!
There are several reasons:1) During the B-sample analysis, they went back and reviewed the A-sample, determining that even the A-sample was in fact, not positive. And yet we still have people, including Torrence, asking "yeah but what about the positive A-sample ...?"2) This existence of an EPO-era in track is not an argument based on any evidence or intelligence, but faith that EPO is the best, or even a good explanation of the fast track times of a the 90's for only a handful of athletes.3) That EPO testing stopped the record progressions in track, but somehow counter-intuitively accelerated precipitous drops in the marathon times.4) We don't "have an era in which we now have proof that there was widespread doping and tainted records across the whole T&F spectrum".5) It is not weird for records to stand for 8 years.6) That Lagat has been dirty for so long, despite the lack of other corroborating evidence.