"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

The 5x less likely to test positive "stat" is patently false. Most unvaccinated cases now are among kids and adolescents. Among middle aged adults (40s and 50s), the infection rate is higher among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated (because unvaccinated individuals are more likely to have had a prior infection and are either dead or have acquired natural immunity that is more robust against delta). In the UK, the infection rate among the vaccinated is almost double that of the unvaccinated in age groups from 40-69. Other than kids, this is primarily a pandemic of the vaccinated at this point.

The reason for 'vaccinated people bringing it there' is that vaccinated people are travelling ...derrrrr

The unvaxxed thousands of people infected in townships in Gauteng are not even travelling to the testing centre.

I will repost the following from other thread here:

Update: we now have 7 cases in NSW, 4 of which in quarrantine. The other three were in community out and about for days arriving before Omicron was announced, and found through back testing of previous cases, So far no one has got it from them in community despite their prolific community mingling.

The three arrived on two flights from Doha (Tuesday 23 and Thursday 25) , the 25th one was originally from Southern Africa, whilst the other two probably picked it up on flight from other southern Africans.

So far so good, our vaccinations, yjough not foolproof, is providing a buffer, even though we have totally unrestricted movement

joed|rtae wrote:

The 5x less likely to test positive "stat" is patently false. Most unvaccinated cases now are among kids and adolescents. Among middle aged adults (40s and 50s), the infection rate is higher among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated (because unvaccinated individuals are more likely to have had a prior infection and are either dead or have acquired natural immunity that is more robust against delta). In the UK, the infection rate among the vaccinated is almost double that of the unvaccinated in age groups from 40-69. Other than kids, this is primarily a pandemic of the vaccinated at this point.

The US data contradicts this:

You can split it out by age group using the tabs on top of the chart.

The data confirm that you are less likely to be infected if you are vaccinated. Hence, a pandemic of the unvaccinated. You are wise enough to know that interpretation of raw infection rates from the UK surveillance report is not really useful.

Thanks, Carmine9. You are correct quote 1 was mine. Maybe someone else said quote 2, but it wasn't me.

I have thick skin, so Harambe doesn't rile me;) Even though I don't agree with his position, I actually give him credit for starting this post, as it has attracted perhaps more interest/replies than any other post (at least in recent years).

I certainly respect that everyone should do their own research and do what they think is best for them. I'm not going to bash Harambe or anyone else that chooses to get the jab-it's your choice. You may or may not have health consequences as a result of getting the jab. Likewise, those of us that choose not to get the jab-may or may not have health consequences if we catch covid. It's all about what you are comfortable doing. Unfortunately, those of us that have made a conscious decision to not get the jab are constantly harassed, bashed, shamed, and in some cases-even fired from jobs.

Arrhenius wrote:

Likewise, those of us that choose not to get the jab-may or may not have health consequences if we catch covid. It's all about what you are comfortable doing. Unfortunately, those of us that have made a conscious decision to not get the jab are constantly harassed, bashed, shamed, and in some cases-even fired from jobs.

I have the same view, I may not and probably will not have the health consequences, but others, whether we agree with their lifestyle causing issuse or not, will have health consequences. Hence it is not a selfish decision, but vaccinating for the combined community effect

Harambe wrote:

Omicron seems to be better at evading immunity from prior infection.

'Herd immunity through infection' again shows itself to be pointless; stacking up bodies for minimal (zero?) additional protection over vaccines as the virus mutates.

Of course, still lots to discover and things can change, but trolling the natural immunity zealots (psychopaths) is too fun.

Trolling a foot soldier from the industry is even more fun. 😉 Del Bigtree grand slammed it last night on Coast to Coast AM - one of their highest rated shows in a long time! 👍 Bigtree said the mass vaccination program is creating these variants that will eventually render the Unicorn vaccines completely useless (as we're already starting to see). Naturally immunity will win the day in the long run. The take home point is you can't successfully vaccinate against coronaviruses (imagine that). Natural immunity is the best defense against respiratory viruses (who would have thought). You lose pro-vaxx mobster. Lol.

Confirmed.

Gina. .. wrote:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xaeV8-cpzZI

Confirmed.

ANTIVAXXERS GO HOME DEVASTATED.

Hope he made it out ok though

If you are going to claim to be a Christian, then live up to that name. Christians have a holy obligation not to harm other people, even at a risk to their own welfare: thou shalt not kill, turn the other cheek, feed the hungry, love your enemy, love your neighbor, etc. By being vaccinated, you would assume a tiny risk, and in return be much less likely to spread disease that may cause grievous harm to others, or to selfishly require medical resources for yourself that could have gone toward treating or saving the life of another. Whether you personally live or die beyond today may be of no great importance: but how you help preserve the lives of others - or how you selfishly harm them - is of utmost importance. Self-proclaimed Christians who refuse vaccination put to open shame the name they claim to revere.

"By being vaccinated, you would assume a tiny risk, and in return be much less likely to spread disease that may cause grievous harm to others,"

Not the case per the data

Let's tell it like it is posted:

[some more bullsh!t from Natural News]

"Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right-wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet."

formerly present wrote:

Let's tell it like it is posted:

[some more bullsh!t from Natural News]

"Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right-wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/natural-news/

Media Bias / Fact Check?

formerly present wrote:

Let's tell it like it is posted:

[some more bullsh!t from Natural News]

"Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right-wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/natural-news/

That organization is owned by a Leftist. Lol. Mike Adams is a conservative. You lose Liberal.

Being vaccinated protects only you, perhaps-and that is questionable. I don't buy into you are helping to protect others by getting the jab. The jabbed are still capable of spreading the virus and infecting others. This is well documented, and I don't think you can argue this point.

I believe in protecting lives, including those of the most of the most innocent-the unborn. All three vaccines use either HEK-293 or PerC.6 cell lines, which were harvested from aborted fetuses. Though there are many Catholics that have no issue with this, there are also plenty of us (through discernment) that can't in good moral conscience take a vaccine that is tied (even remotely) to the abortion industry. I would also not knowingly use any medicines, therapeutics, etc. that used these same aborted fetal cell lines in their development or manufacture.

Sorry folks.

Kamala Harris, one of yours, just came out and proclaimed virtually everybody in the hospital AND virtually everybody dying now, are vaccinated. Tough moment.

Noyankee wrote:

Sorry folks.

Kamala Harris, one of yours, just came out and proclaimed virtually everybody in the hospital AND virtually everybody dying now, are vaccinated. Tough moment.

Wow, you'd almost think that most of the vulnerable are vaccinated.

You crazy cat, I love your immense logic. You should get a job at Trump Tower.

0/10

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

You lose Liberal.

What kinda ignant BS is this? This is what you get up in the morning for? To see liberals lose? If you had a choice, what would you prefer:

Liberals lose AND America suffer or

Conservatives lose AND America thrives

?

I know you're thinking that those are oxymorons, but humor me? You come across as a guy who has made sacrifices. Would you sacrifice being wrong for the greater good of the country in which you live?