carmine9 wrote:
Cannot argue on the facts therefore call people trolls and pretend you are justified in not engaging.
Run away. Run away.
The sad facts: c9/DU used to be a 4:20 miler. The last time he tried to get in shape, he didn't break 25:00 in a 5K. But the age-equivalent time for him would have still been sub-19. So he ran 390 seconds slower than the equivalent age-graded time. Using a formula of 2 seconds per pound per mile, that suggests that c9/DU was 60 pounds over his former racing weight - and that was 5 years ago! For a 5' 10" male, that would take his BMI from 20 up to 28.7, deep into the overweight territory. If he's gained 10 pounds in the 5 sedentary years since then, he's now clinically obese.
For all his flaws, c9/DU is old, slow and fat. It's critically important that he get vaccinated soon. Please, as you discuss this sensitive issue, try to support c9/DU with positive reinforcement so that he can have the courage to get vaccinated. People close to c9/DU can help by sharing stories of their own vaccinations. Needle phobia doesn't have to be a life sentence.