Yeah, about that.... wrote:
Grace Kelly wrote:
The more you clowns keep on posting, the more obvious you make it that the right-leaning anti-vax crowd are simply incapable of contributing to society.
C9, formerly Der Onkel, is a troll. Changed his moniker when responses to him started to dry up.
Don't respond to this one, either. Starve a troll today.
Cannot argue on the facts therefore call people trolls and pretend you are justified in not engaging.
Run away. Run away.
Harambe wrote:
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Evidence?!?!? Hahahhaa.
Perhaps you failed to mention that alcoholism causes pancreatic gallstones?
Way to deflect yet again from the main point which is that you are the fearmongerer: "hey Letsrun! There have been 700,000 deaths! Go get vaccinated!"
Nothing you have said changes the fact that an American needed emergency medical services (non-COVID) and died because antivaxxers were taking up all the beds.
Deflect, distract, and excuse all you want. The truth remains.
Except that it was his fault for making poor diet decisions. Pancreatic gallstones are not caused randomly: it is from too much alcohol and sugar intake.
Boston Guy wrote:
At this point the only reason to care about Covid is totalitarian politics. Covid as a virus no longer matters. You got Covid, wow, OMG, guess what: it doesn't matter. Covid has been reduced to a basic cold through vaccination and exposure.
IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE.
+1
Fantastic post. If you dont read anything else in this thread, read and re-read this post.
Good news: covid is not that big of a deal anymore. We can start living a normal life again.
Interesting opinion from Scott Gottlieb, former FDA head and current member of Pfizer's board, this morning on CNBC.
He believes the focus now should change to getting fully vaxxed to take boosters before the holiday season. His rationale is that this would do more to stop the spread of covid than trying to get those who have refused the vaccine to take it now. Most of the fully vaxxed are agreeable to getting the booster and it would increase their immunity back to 95%.
fisky wrote:
Interesting opinion from Scott Gottlieb, former FDA head and current member of Pfizer's board, this morning on CNBC.
He believes the focus now should change to getting fully vaxxed to take boosters before the holiday season. His rationale is that this would do more to stop the spread of covid than trying to get those who have refused the vaccine to take it now. Most of the fully vaxxed are agreeable to getting the booster and it would increase their immunity back to 95%.
Former FDA head now on Pfizer's Board.
Very credible source. His advice...use our product
fisky wrote:
Interesting opinion from Scott Gottlieb, former FDA head and current member of Pfizer's board, this morning on CNBC.
He believes the focus now should change to getting fully vaxxed to take boosters before the holiday season. His rationale is that this would do more to stop the spread of covid than trying to get those who have refused the vaccine to take it now. Most of the fully vaxxed are agreeable to getting the booster and it would increase their immunity back to 95%.
Perfect. Good luck!
And to think, all you need to do is get on a running program. Solved everything. That’s what should be mandated. Health.
Noyankee wrote:
And you are a child abuser. No child deserves your sickness. Sticking these kids like your personal lab rats with some crap that loses its value after 2 months but continues to circulate in their bodies when there is not a single health reason for them to take it. You liberals are gutless playing God with children that are not yours because you are on the train to h e ll and can’t help yourself knowing others are leading natural healthy lies. You took the Trump vaccine willingly. Now leave it at that.
How is Big Ben doing? Compared to Rodgers, who beat this old with a napkin and a couple ivermectin
+1
Great post. Let's speak out against hate. This is child abuse. Plain and simple. And we will stop it.
Absolutely agree. Any otherwise healthy person who is scared of covid but should not be (thanks to the fearmongering media coverage) can go out and get themselves a booster now in certain states (like NY). Of course healthy young men and athletes in general should not do this due to the myocarditis risk but whatever, if you want to inject yourself with an (in)effective and (un)safe immunotherapy have at it.
But anyone who is truly at high risk of covid morbidity/mortality e.g. immunocompromised and/or cancer/organ transplant/failure should seek out prophylactic monoclonal antibodies given that the shot has been demonstrated to be even more ineffective in these populations
Really, it's shocking that the guidelines haven't been updated to include prophylactic monoclonal Ab for highest risk. Instead Dr Death (Fauci) and his band of CDC cronies are pushing ineffective boosters in these ppl.
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A few critical questions surrounding booster shots that have yet to be determined, hence making indiscriminate use problematic, unjustified and unethical:
1. The optimal timing of boosting is not clear
2. Lack of comparative data on currently marketed vaccines w/re immunity. Do they all boost "immunity" to a similar extent (homologous or heterologous boosting)? And here immunity needs to be looked at not only in the laboratory (e.g. antibody levels, Tcell reactivity) but also in the clinic (not just w/re to the crappy outcome of PCR+ and 1 symptom but also adequately powered hard outcome studies (evaluate death/morbidity/hospitalization/ICU admittance).
3. There is the ethical consideration of providing a third vaccine dose to certain individuals, while a large section of the world is yet to receive the first.
4. Acknowledgement there is ethical concerns around providing a third vaccine dose to otherwise healthy people at near zero risk of covid death/morbidity to begin with even without these immunotherapy shots. Now add cumulative risk of side effects, including myocarditis/pericarditis into the mix.
Welcome morons!
carmine9 wrote:
fisky wrote:
Interesting opinion from Scott Gottlieb, former FDA head and current member of Pfizer's board, this morning on CNBC.
He believes the focus now should change to getting fully vaxxed to take boosters before the holiday season. His rationale is that this would do more to stop the spread of covid than trying to get those who have refused the vaccine to take it now. Most of the fully vaxxed are agreeable to getting the booster and it would increase their immunity back to 95%.
Former FDA head now on Pfizer's Board.
Very credible source. His advice...use our product
I don't disagree. That's why I added the "current member of Pfizer's board," but I rather see boosters being pushed than this heavy-handed OSHA over-reach to attempt to mandate vaccinations.
As far as the booster is concerned, it's "in for a penny, in for a pound." If you think the vax is safe, you might as well get the booster.
I would point out that one survey (not sure I can find a link) found that 25% of the fully vaxxed would NOT get the booster. No reason was given. My guess, and it's just a guess, is that they either had an adverse reaction or they have heard of adverse reactions among their friends.
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
And you are a child abuser. No child deserves your sickness. Sticking these kids like your personal lab rats with some crap that loses its value after 2 months but continues to circulate in their bodies when there is not a single health reason for them to take it. You liberals are gutless playing God with children that are not yours because you are on the train to h e ll and can’t help yourself knowing others are leading natural healthy lies. You took the Trump vaccine willingly. Now leave it at that.
How is Big Ben doing? Compared to Rodgers, who beat this old with a napkin and a couple ivermectin
+1
Great post. Let's speak out against hate. This is child abuse. Plain and simple. And we will stop it.
It does nothing positive for a child. It’s their sickness that is on display.
I mean, for real, these are supposedly runners in this forum. Nothing on record is better at fighting this crap than running. No vaccine. No booster. No Doctor recommendation.
And all these people want to do is stick kids with this experiment, that are not their kids. I have not heard one person recommend running, in a running forum. Many of us just realize this and probably feel it’s obvious, but these are political people we are dealing with, and criminal minds.
BTW, there's been a lot of interest in the increasing cases in Vermont. I just looked at the CDC Covid Data Tracker and there is a clear trend. Cases in northern states are increasing. Cases in the southern states are low and not increasing.
This is, I think, the normal flu season pattern. Flu season historically has taken off around 1 November. We're seeing that in covid cases in the north. Much of the south has had an unseasonably warm fall so we still haven't moved into flu season.
Yes, I know that there's a big kerfluffle over flu being misdiagnosed as covid, but that's a different issue.
Right now, the covid case rate in my county is 1/1,000 people... down 90% since September. Our vax rate is 59%... about the same as the US average.
Gathering of clowns today. Nowhere else for you to go I suppose.
This circle-jerk of ignorance is funny. Enjoy not being allowed to do anything soon.
fisky wrote:
BTW, there's been a lot of interest in the increasing cases in Vermont. I just looked at the CDC Covid Data Tracker and there is a clear trend. Cases in northern states are increasing. Cases in the southern states are low and not increasing.
This is, I think, the normal flu season pattern. Flu season historically has taken off around 1 November. We're seeing that in covid cases in the north. Much of the south has had an unseasonably warm fall so we still haven't moved into flu season.
Yes, I know that there's a big kerfluffle over flu being misdiagnosed as covid, but that's a different issue.
Right now, the covid case rate in my county is 1/1,000 people... down 90% since September. Our vax rate is 59%... about the same as the US average.
Sounds like your country is doing it about right. These are not people capable of reason however. They are led.
The real funny thing tho is that this is Trumps vaccine!!! And they can’t get enough of it.
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Boston Guy wrote:
At this point the only reason to care about Covid is totalitarian politics. Covid as a virus no longer matters. You got Covid, wow, OMG, guess what: it doesn't matter. Covid has been reduced to a basic cold through vaccination and exposure.
IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE.
+1
Fantastic post. If you dont read anything else in this thread, read and re-read this post.
Good news: covid is not that big of a deal anymore. We can start living a normal life again.
1000 people per day dying yeah it's cool.
two 9-11s per week isn't a big deal.
or 28 full jetliner crashes each week dropping out of the sky
And a new variant that just popped up in the UK probably won't make it out of the UK.
Chill, peeps.
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Boston Guy wrote:
At this point the only reason to care about Covid is totalitarian politics. Covid as a virus no longer matters. You got Covid, wow, OMG, guess what: it doesn't matter. Covid has been reduced to a basic cold through vaccination and exposure.
IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE.
+1
Fantastic post. If you dont read anything else in this thread, read and re-read this post.
Good news: covid is not that big of a deal anymore. We can start living a normal life again.
+2; this is definitely correct