Atantic Region XC - D3

Wow do you look like an idiot putting the number 5 team in the country, as only fourth in the region????

Pre-Nats was weak, and maybe Suny G ran a bit "down" after their big win last week, and RIT is all pumped, but it (letchworth race) was really a dual meet, thats why it was close. Watching the same 10 teams every week has made you somewhat dillusional.

NYU returns 2 of the top 4 returners in the region, has looked good and deep thus far, and hasnt chosen to go to the well yet. CNJ has a solid group back from their regional championship team, and from the looks off their pack, they might have tempo'd at PShort. they did that last year going out at the back of the race pretty much.

do you really think the only teams and guys that can/have improved are in western ny? that sells alot of guys short, use the web and look at some other teams you dont see every week, look how their guys ran at meets last year or the year before, see if they are ahead of that, if they have improved each year.

Im basing my poll off what teams have done. I no doubt have the upmost respect for NYU and i fully expect them to run extremely well once they get everything going, point is, they havent really done too much yet and teams like Cortland and RIT have been making statements.

It's basically a crapshoot for spots 1-4 right now and you can make a legitimate argument for anyone of those teams winning the atlantic region title.

Main point, the Atlantic Region has gotten ridiculously good very fast and should definitely do well at Nationals no matter who represents. I'd say that 4 teams from the Atlantic Region is getting closer to being a lock rather than a possibility.

I have been looking at other results and ive seen what teams have done...But lets face the facts, outside of NYU, TCNJ, and Rowan, The Altantic Region is upstate New York all the way.

I hope that TCNJ and NYU perfrom up to their capabilities and do what everyone expects them too...I would love nothing more than to see the Atlantic Region get the maximum number of team bids (5) to the NCAA's and really then show how far this region has come.

Any word on Liberty League results? It should give some sort of comparison for SLU from last year to this year, with that being the course from last year's Liberty League meet and NYSCTC meet.

Men:

http://knights.geneseo.edu/xcountry/mensresults06.txt

Women:

http://knights.geneseo.edu/xcountry/womensresults06.txt

A dual meet? A dual meet with Brockport, Plattsburgh(minus Deshane), UR, Fredonia, Ohio Northern, etc. And out total team times were within 10 seconds of each other.

Anyone know what happened to Berube today? He wasn't in the results that I saw, did he run?

SUNYAC Fan wrote:

I no doubt have the upmost respect for NYU...

"uTmost"

hey lowe-

i have respect for you and wasnt one of the kids on here busting your balls last week. But here goes.... your at RIT, your not dumb, rit 5 of the top 13, geneseo 5 of the top 13. both scored 36/8 points and next team was at 105? i think.

THATS A DUAL MEET. in a 10-12 team meet, no other team has ANY impact.

Kinda how at regionals last year 16 of the top 23 were from 3 teams, plus cfred and naly from cortland. so there were only like 4 guys from the other 30 + schools in the top 25.

Nice job by your team today

Lowe-

so now for real details, how did the race play out? how was the course, weather etc? did geneseo go out hard like at pre-nats?

The weather was nice actually. A little cool, but no wind or rain, pretty good XC conditions. Course was mostly dry, only a couple of muddy spots and some standing water in the trails.

Geneseo went out as a big group for about the first couple of miles with a decent sized pack(Kolb, Stevens, Beringer, Fluke, and a few others), went through ~5:05 and then ~10:05, started to string out between there and mile 3(15:18 for the leaders). Lockett made a move to the lead at about 4k, Stevens, Jesse and myself went with him. Stevens made his own move around 6k, pulled about 10 seconds ahead. I tried to follow and ended up running alone for almost a mile. At about 400m to go, Jesse flew by me(he was hauling!), and I heard people telling Lockett to kick, so I went hard and held on. I dunno how the rest of the race went behind me- any additions?

???? wrote:

Lowe-

so now for real details, how did the race play out? how was the course, weather etc? did geneseo go out hard like at pre-nats?

Oh God. Way to go, now we're going to have to hear all about how one of those pesky, dumb Geneseo runners breathed in his direction and how devestating it was for him and his race. Thanks.

SUNYAC Fan quote "Mark Stevens wins the race for the 2nd year in a row for the University of Rochester" is not true. Stevens did win this year but; he did not win it last year. He took second to Otterbrin's Mike Sawicki.

Atlantic Region is crazy this year. It will be intersting to see how SUNYACS, States, and Regionals play out this year. Will Geneseo beat Cortland in all of these races? or will Cortland win out? Any predictions?

SUNYAC Fan wrote:

Fontana Fluke looked to be running a tempo run trying to bring along Alfred\'s other top guys.

Oswego looked like they ran a tempo run as they were all grouped up together for awhile.

Fluke: I passed him with a mile to go and he could barely breathe, he was more than winded.

Oswego: OVERRATED

Coming out of the woods turning into the last part of the race (the really messy slop just before you looped around by the swimming pool fence to finish, about 600 meters left in the race) the battle for who was going to win the team title still was undecided. Geneseo and RIT's 4th and 5th men were right together. Geneseo's Tillapaugh and Mulcahy made a strong move and pulled away from RIT's Burdick and Andy V. Nice race to both teams. It would have been interesting to see who would have won out had there been more guys up front from different teams.

SUNYAC Fan wrote:

Im basing my poll off what teams have done. I no doubt have the upmost respect for NYU and i fully expect them to run extremely well once they get everything going, point is, they havent really done too much yet and teams like Cortland and RIT have been making statements.

then i guess you don't consider dismantling williams on their home course "doing too much." RIT was close today, they had balls and went for it, but they didn't win. i wouldn't go overboard with the props for them.

Oswego: OVERRATED

pretty much we are unrated I believe. the team intentionally ran together early (5:40+ mile 1, 11:00+ 2 mile) and worked together to move up through the field. still a work in progress; we were pleased with our effort. good luck to all.

[quote]CortlandFan+MessageBoards=lol wrote:

Umm, First off, you have Jesse Williamson in your top 5 picks. I can assure you after 3 years of running with him, and Nate Cantgetpushedwithoutwhining Lowe, Lowe is faster, not only has his finishes this year been above Williamson, but he has been for some time. Williamson is talented, but not faster than Lowe. quote]

Looks like someone lit a fire under jesse's ass... Good to see geneseo has some competition this year, however, i remember a few years ago when brockport came "close" to beating Geneseo at this very same meet(not by 2 points, a couple more) and didn't end up being that close at the end of the year. That's what a meet like this does to you, when there really isn't anyone else contending. I mean, out of the top 13 (where RIT's 5th finished) there were 3 runners that didn't impact the scoring other than displace a few points from Geneseo/RIT. It'll be a lot more interesting when NYU, TCNJ, and Cortland are in the mix, plus DeShane.

I'm going to call it now, put Nate Lockett in your top 3 individuals at regionals. He's going to contend for the win there.

no chance in hell. your prediction sucks mr washington.

Brockport although not on par with the Geneseo's Cortland's and RIT's of the Atlantic Region seems to be on the right track and improving as the year develops like a team should. It wouldn't surprise me if at this rate they overtake teams like SLU and maybe even CNJ sometime soon. Kolb seems to be finding his legs again and they have a solid team behind if Kolb can continue to improve as he seems to be doing Brockport might be top 5 material come November. P.S. the atlantic region is looking stronger and stronger as the year progresses maybe 5 bids is a possibility afterall.

just you wait...