Here's a video of the state 3200 last year. Looks like Breker is out of it with 600 meters to go. Even at 200 it looks like too much to make up. He has the fitness and has crazy drive. Unfortunately, this video pans away from the leaders on the final turn.
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Why is the South Suburban course slow? It looks like a bunch of softball fields
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North’s 5th man seriously needs to step up if they want any sort of shot at beating Wayzata. Even then, Wayzata might still be better.
If he doesn’t step up at state, I could see Rosemount beating North going forward.
This meet almost seemed like a dual meet between these 2 teams. Except for a few really good individuals like Hage and Starfield.
In a bigger field, there will be so many guys taking down North’s 5th man. Which will add more points to their score.
Many of us are still waiting for McNeil to get back to where he was last year in track when he made state in the 3200.
Wayzata looks like a favorite right now. They could have 5 guys in the top 15 or top 20 at state.00 -
MNXC Enthusiast wrote:
Why is the South Suburban course slow? It looks like a bunch of softball fields
Dude, did you wake up in MN today?
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I think it’s going to be closer and maybe even an upset at Sioux Falls. There are 2 other girls in the state consistently running 17s that never get challenged. Other than Covid (Fall 2021) Jade Rypkema has been undefeated for years now. She ran state 3 weeks after getting out of ER last year. Nechanicky skipped the season. Jade has beat Overgaauw 4 times in their HS careers. And Both these 2 girls are running alone out front and winning by over a minute. I think you are underestimating some of the Small school competitors. we will see- not everyone runs in the 16s alone but with a challenge I think all 3 of these girls may be capable.
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CCMOM wrote:
I think it’s going to be closer and maybe even an upset at Sioux Falls. There are 2 other girls in the state consistently running 17s that never get challenged. Other than Covid (Fall 2021) Jade Rypkema has been undefeated for years now. She ran state 3 weeks after getting out of ER last year. Nechanicky skipped the season. Jade has beat Overgaauw 4 times in their HS careers. And Both these 2 girls are running alone out front and winning by over a minute. I think you are underestimating some of the Small school competitors. we will see- not everyone runs in the 16s alone but with a challenge I think all 3 of these girls may be capable.
What about on the team side? Can Minnetonka take down Olathe West from KS and go to NXN?
Mor is back. Lost to an 8th grader on the team but it’s been a long while since she last ran a XC race.
Sad that Downin transferred to Edina. Would have been #3 for Tonka. She has a brother who still goes to Tonka.
Maybe she chose Edina for some non - running reasons. If she went to Edina just for running then it was a wrong decision. I don’t see Edina girls going to state this year over Minnetonka or Prior Lake.00 -
theOTHERwhitemeat wrote:
Dude, did you wake up in MN today?fair, but it’s slow every year, not just this year. Curious why
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MNXC Enthusiast wrote:
Mounds View lost their #2, #3 (JC Otto to injury) and #5 at NXR (Max Gregory running as Cayden Stoner who was pulled due to injury). If you look at the guys they have, their improvement from last year at the same meet is good (Lelinga 1:50, several other guys ~1:00 year-to-year). No they're not going to be making the trip to NXN, but underwhelming seems dramatic. MN as a state is just much deeper this year.
Stillwater was bad at Alexandria last year and ran really well last weekend. Riniker has made a good jump as a soph, they got Degonda back who was a 16:5x guy two years ago but didn't race in 2021, and Kilibarda is back where he should be. Lots of 5-men teams in MN this year so will be interesting to see who can put it together in November!
At Alexandria 2021, Stillwater’s top guy ran a 16:49. #2 ran a 17:12
In 2022, they put 5 under 16:44. #6 ran a 17:08.
Huge improvement after losing many seniors (and Kilibarda/Degonda being back and Riniker/Walsh stepping up).
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CCMOM wrote:
I think it’s going to be closer and maybe even an upset at Sioux Falls. There are 2 other girls in the state consistently running 17s that never get challenged. Other than Covid (Fall 2021) Jade Rypkema has been undefeated for years now.
Rypkema has run mid 17:00s at two of the perennially fastest courses in the state; Nechanicky is on a different level
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It seems like you guys in Minnesota really care about this. Like you guys are world class geeks. How do you explain that Minnesota was 33rd out of 33 teams for the men at the Nuttycombe meet? It seems with the high school scene being strong that this would not be the case.
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Bbbwr wrote:
It seems like you guys in Minnesota really care about this. Like you guys are world class geeks. How do you explain that Minnesota was 33rd out of 33 teams for the men at the Nuttycombe meet? It seems with the high school scene being strong that this would not be the case.
The great thing about this thread is that it is about building interest in high school cross country running. There is virtual no negative comments in 23 pages, very unique to this website.
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algebra wrote:
Bbbwr wrote:
It seems like you guys in Minnesota really care about this. Like you guys are world class geeks. How do you explain that Minnesota was 33rd out of 33 teams for the men at the Nuttycombe meet? It seems with the high school scene being strong that this would not be the case.
The great thing about this thread is that it is about building interest in high school cross country running. There is virtual no negative comments in 23 pages, very unique to this website.
Unique indeed. I was not being negative either.
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The UMN just got a new coaching staff last year and graduated 3 of their top runners. Today was a poor showing for sure, but we need to give the staff time to rebuild before we judge
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MNXC Enthusiast wrote:
The UMN just got a new coaching staff last year and graduated 3 of their top runners. Today was a poor showing for sure, but we need to give the staff time to rebuild before we judge
OK yeah I wasn’t sure and I know they cut something maybe indoor track for the men. Not sure how much that matters.
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Yeah that’s not gonna help retain the in-state talent, which the UMN has been pretty bad with for years. To be fair, there were some solid HS guys in the last decade that never developed so that kept local guys away too.
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OK thanks.
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MN Reve wrote:
Wayzata’s Speed ratings (boys)
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179
176
173
173
163
153Dowling catholic IA (Griak champs) - these are from last week. They ran another race this week.
185
177
170
168
163
Wayzata may have gotten only 3rd at Griak, but they might have re-established themselves as favorites in the state and the region as well.The Wayzata top 5 might not be easy for North and Rosemount to catch up to. The top 2 Wayzata speed ratings at conference were 174 and 171 last year. So 5 SRs this year above the #2 SR from last year.
Speed ratings:
Lakeville north
179
173
170
170
162Rosemount
175
172
170
167
164Minnetonka (with only one Fries)
179
175
173
159
157Iowa City IA (from last week)
187
172
165
165
158
I think Minnetonka might be able to beat Rosemount and/or Lakeville North if the older Fries and Downin are back and healthy.
But for now, I would rank these teams like this (without R Fries and Downin)
1. Wayzata
2. Dowling Catholic IA (won at Griak)
3. Lakeville North
4. Rosemount
5. Iowa City IA (got 8th at NXR last year with 4 nonseniors scoring. Also has Ford Washburn who broke 15 in the 5K a couple of times this year)
6. Minnetonka
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I think Breker’s breakout race last year was NXR Heartland.
https://www.milesplit.com/articles/322035/track-ish-noah-breker-georgia-vs-texas-more
Interestingly enough, Hamza beat Gilles both at Conference and Sections in 2019.
Gilles also got beat by a Minnetonka and a Wayzata guy in his grade that don’t do XC anymore.
https://mn.milesplit.com/meets/363785-lake-conference-championships-2019/results/673509#.Y0lmHiVOkWM
https://mn.milesplit.com/meets/363832-mshsl-section-6aa-championships-2019/results/677481#.Y0lmkCVOkWM00 -
Heritage Christian is very good and has lots of young talent
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My posts have been downvoted some so I do sense that the lack of negativity in this thread was rather superficial. Do better folks.
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