Guelph Implodes

the medical issue was a bruised ego.

BRENDA SCOTT-THOMAS, Physiotherapist & Paramdeical Lead Scott-Thomas is one of the country’s leading physiotherapists for track and field athletes and is the owner of Speed River Physiotherapy in Guelph.

A Physiotherapy clinic associated with the Speed River track club, and sharing the name, isn’t going to be a great thing for their business future given the current tainted image. Time to rebrand for everyone and start fresh.

PhysioT wrote:

A Physiotherapy clinic associated with the Speed River track club, and sharing the name, isn’t going to be a great thing for their business future given the current tainted image. Time to rebrand for everyone and start fresh.

You don’t need to feel sorry for them. That physio clinic has already tremendously benefited from its connections to Speed River and Athletics Canada. Connections between SR and AC that we’re finding out now never should have been made. And the clinic owner surely knew the truth of it all all along.

What years was Rob Watson with SR and DST

What many don't seem to realize is that every comment you make, which you are not 100 % sure of the absolute truth of that statement, you are contributing to potential lawsuits along the road. More importantly, you are interfering with justice, with due process, and sooner and later, some good lawyer will jump on the number of people who are spouting off, without that 100 % surety of the absolute truth, and many will be saying, wtf just happened ? Summary position ... shut up unless you want to be part of the aforementioned process. By the way, comments made that you heard from a friend of a friend are almost certainly at least exaggerated, if not completely false. And by the way, are you sure that specific athletes that you are quoting did not sign off on some sort of legal agreement many years ago that they agreed to say nothing about this issue ??? What a mess .... I hope all involved are getting serious support , both counselling wise and legally wise.... there is a lot of trauma going on here, and I wish the best for everyone concerned. And I really hope there are people close to DST who are familiar with self-harm watch issues... Merry Christmas !!!

The only sure thing, going back to the start of this thread, was a rather obvious coverup, which somehow was taboo to even post about (a coverup of a coverup, if you will).

Not to mention the bizarre strategy of DST’s apologists: one minute they’re threatening everyone; next minute they’re fvcking analysts saying witnesses all have PTSD, etc.; the final strategy is that DST is a Christ-like coach who will be arisen next as Prime Minister/Alberto Salazar(!)/Grand High Poobah.

jesseriley wrote:

The only sure thing, going back to the start of this thread, was a rather obvious coverup, which somehow was taboo to even post about (a coverup of a coverup, if you will).

Not to mention the bizarre strategy of DST’s apologists: one minute they’re threatening everyone; next minute they’re fvcking analysts saying witnesses all have PTSD, etc.; the final strategy is that DST is a Christ-like coach who will be arisen next as Prime Minister/Alberto Salazar(!)/Grand High Poobah.

You say that, but I haven’t seen evidence of that on this thread. There’s one fellow who seems a little off base, but otherwise none of what you purport is happening, seems to be happening.

Would you like to provide examples of defenders of DST? I really haven’t seen many on this thread, and none of them are considering him as a Christlike coach.

Slimy wrote:

I herd DST went on a ‘medical leave’ in October and it was legit

Do we know when the investigation started? The parts of the statements from Guelph didn’t say

I can say with some certainty, outside of his coaching career, Dave is going through a lot.

Most of it brought on outside of his control. That doesn’t excuse anything else that has purportedly happened, if it has happened, but personal leave wad definitely warranted.

Come on people

If the “clinic owner knew” then why are they separating now?

Makes no sense

No way they were aware

Seems like nobody was

Stop speculating

Also this physio originally worked for Eramosa Physio for years and years when they moved to the Guelph area

Eramosa and Speed are the two big rivers that run through Guelph

This physio went out on her own and eventually brought on younger physios out of school

The name seems appropriate to me

Being on her own allowed her to help take care of 3 incredible and active kids by setting her own schedule and being able to juggle and adapt

The young physios went out on their own or switched cities, clinics, etc

She allowed them to get established

That seems kinda like a nice community service aspect that worked for everyone

As a client I enjoyed these benefits as did my family

Recently this clinic went from a big floor space to a significantly smaller one

I believe she is the only one working there but haven’t been myself

She is a phenomenally talented physio who is great with runners due to her own success and extensive experience

All the elites at Guelph greatly enjoyed working with her when THEY were afforded the opportunity

Let’s not forget most of the teams these support staff travel with are volunteer or would pay less than working for yourself

Plus you have to pay someone else to get your kids to school and other life inconveniences

There was no inappropriate link with a physio clinic that allowed anyone to game the system

Prices were reduced for elite athletes to try to help them succeed

Nobody evil got rich here taking advantage of anything

Stop being so schizo and wait for the facts to come to light

Happy to summarize:

Trackie won’t allow posts, so they come here.

Subsequently trackie revises their statements & strategy, claims it’s a conspiracy theory, etc. Can’t trust them to tell us the time now.

Suddenly Canadian libel laws can supposedly stop this thread (dream on).

Then, “coaches can do what they want”/blame the victim, age of consent, etc. We all know who has the power, but it’s up to an authority figure to use better judgment.

Bottom line, DST is too good to make a statement, so don’t blame others for getting the (mostly authenticated, at least as far as the original rumors) info.

And a healthy dose of, “We used to get away with it, why can’t we get away with it forever?”

These types of clubs are NFPs

If you don’t know what that means then don’t comment on people getting rich inappropriately with secret sums of pirate money hidden out in the arb somewhere

They have boards that follow slightly different structures in NFPs and financials are slightly more / less complicated, I guess just different when you look at statements and what you can do with anything left on a balance sheet

You can own the shares but if it is an NFP what is the value of the future cash flows when there isn’t any?

How much would you pay me for zero dollars a year over the next hundred years?

This isn’t Apple, think more like a charity providing a public service

The board is not likely going to change the name to rebrand

Speed River in Guelph is a brand, not a person

If someone happened, and they are aware, doesn’t matter who owns the shares the board and the GM can fire Jesus himself if they want

I think I saw someone post about Jeff Haller and others (here or trackie) knowing but not raising a flag because they had so much to loose

That lovely chap is a full time, engaged and established teacher

He handles the youth program, or did, and is just lovely with those wonderful kids

If he gets a “pay cheque” it is to help cover his fuel costs to get to Guelph

If he were a corporation he would be claiming huge losses on depreciation of his vehicle, his time, travel (okay he likely gets travel costs covered), etc

How could a teacher have more to loose than their jobs, especially a lovely guy like this who goes above and beyond

Let’s leave these excellent volunteers alone and stop the paranoia

Nobody is getting rich here and can take a bunch of money and run off

It’s an NFP, anyone withdraws funds and they are embezzling / fraudulent

There isn’t any secret money, the shares are literally worthless, nobody can run away with funds

Speed River does a great job, from Extreme Team up to the Inferno, for the running community, or community at large, in Guelph

Guelph is lucky to have this program and the army of incredible people who have built it

This is not a one man show, it is too big and successful for that

Calm down and grow up

All the best to SRTFC going forward

Figures plz or it’s bs

Has Mike Tate now left too? Joining Westaway, Lalonde, Ayers, plus the previous long list of departees? There’s something in the water indeed.

Jesse nobody is going to give you the numbers here

Even non for profits have private finances

It’s to keep idiots like you from commenting about things you couldn’t possibly understand given your limited abilities

Exactly, make a bs claim that can’t be verified.

If you’re implying that she paid his gigolo expenses to abuse her trust, that would be extraordinary.

Let's see figures on all your crazy theories.