They can't exactly bust an athlete with the bio passport unless some levels are off-the-charts above certain thresholds; however, a knowledgeable person can pretty quickly determine if an athlete is "likely doping" (the leaked documents showed us this) and then they can develop a pattern of testing to try to catch them or at least give an athlete an idea that they need to cut it out (I think USADA is more likely to do this than to try to catch anyone). AIU got Shelby because they did two tests in quick succession within a few days of each other, and that pretty much never happens. Shelby thought she had the green light after the first test and then likely got caught because she took something the night before her failed test.
Updated USADA leaders in numbers of tests this year in case anyone was wondering:
12: ShaCarri Richardson (hahahahaha!!!!!)
11: Sean McGorty
10: Kiera D'Amato, Natosha Rogers
9: Anna Hall, Christian Coleman, Clayton Young, Elle St. Pierre, Fred Kerley, Nick Christie
8: Erriyon Knighton, Evan Jager, Galen Rupp, Grant Fisher, Hillary Bor, Hobbs Kessler, Karissa Schweizer, Miranda Melville, Payton Otterdahl, Quincy Hall, Sara Hall, Vashti Cunningham, Zouhair Talbi
Others of note: Noah Lyles (7), Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone (7), Yared Nuguse (7), Nia Akins (7), Nikki Hiltz (7), Ryan Crouser (6), Cole Hocker (6), Elise Cranny (6), Chase Jackson (5), Kenny Bednarek (5), Valerie Allman (4), Rai Benjamin (3)
Parker Valby? Nico Young?
College athletes. Not in USADA testing pool yet. They were the NCAA’s responsibility.
The technological know how to dope and cover-up said doping with assistance from national bodies responsible for administering drug tests.
Quit trying to paint lily-white, Anglo-Saxon Australia as some morally high nation above doping, this result, along with staggering performance increases among a few of of female distance runners, see below, suggests something fishy going on in the land down under probably preparing for the potential 2032 Olympics.
Rose Davies has improved her 5K time from 15:07 to 14:41. Isobel Batt-Doyle has improved her 5K time from 15:04 to 14:49. Lauren Ryan has improved her 10K time from 32:09 to 30:35. Her 5K PR before this year was 15:11 but now she can average under 15:18 pace for 10K! A lot of improvement from Australian women this year.
It's beyond ridiculous to imply a country like Australia, with some of the strictest drug testing procedures and technology in the world, would be engaged in some kind of systematic doping along the lines of Kenya, Russia, etc, etc.
You people are on another planet.
NO, lily-white Australia is engaged in systematic doping along its own lines, the so called ' strictest drug testing procedures' you bring up are irrelevant when the unfavourable results, i.e. drug test failures, are simply covered up and swept under the carpet with complicity from national bodies assigned to perform said tests.
Quit trying to throw around your technological advancement as some sort of reason not to cheat, if anything it's an extremely strong reason to support the theory that australia is engaged in some high level doping
It's beyond ridiculous to imply a country like Australia, with some of the strictest drug testing procedures and technology in the world, would be engaged in some kind of systematic doping along the lines of Kenya, Russia, etc, etc.
You people are on another planet.
NO, lily-white Australia is engaged in systematic doping along its own lines, the so called ' strictest drug testing procedures' you bring up are irrelevant when the unfavourable results, i.e. drug test failures, are simply covered up and swept under the carpet with complicity from national bodies assigned to perform said tests.
Quit trying to throw around your technological advancement as some sort of reason not to cheat, if anything it's an extremely strong reason to support the theory that australia is engaged in some high level doping
Lol, then there's that other country with "some of the strictest drug testing procedures and technology in the world", Great Britain, are they also "engaged in some high level doping"?
GB seem to have had a lot of success recently, what with Kerr, Hodgkinson, Wightman, Muir, Reekie, Bell (4sec PB in same race as Hull), etc, etc.
Funny you mention Izzy Batt Doyle, Rose Davies and Lauren Ryan as a suggestion of systematic doping in Oz. They all post religiously on Strava, which you would not expect from cheats if you think it through…
NO, lily-white Australia is engaged in systematic doping along its own lines, the so called ' strictest drug testing procedures' you bring up are irrelevant when the unfavourable results, i.e. drug test failures, are simply covered up and swept under the carpet with complicity from national bodies assigned to perform said tests.
Quit trying to throw around your technological advancement as some sort of reason not to cheat, if anything it's an extremely strong reason to support the theory that australia is engaged in some high level doping
Lol, then there's that other country with "some of the strictest drug testing procedures and technology in the world", Great Britain, are they also "engaged in some high level doping"?
GB seem to have had a lot of success recently, what with Kerr, Hodgkinson, Wightman, Muir, Reekie, Bell (4sec PB in same race as Hull), etc, etc.
Then there's Norway, etc.
You people are on another planet.
Apologies, I left out GB's Katie Snowden:
29 AUG 2020: 4:09.63
02 AUG 2021: 4:02.77
16 AUG 2022: 4:03.76
20 AUG 2023: 3:56.72
Definitely "engaged in some high level doping" there lol.
How many seconds is it to run on the rail the whole way, and also to have a draft for a lot of the race? (Compared to what she experiences in average in other races), and run a very well paced (optimal splits) race (I stead of slowing, surging, kicking, etc.). 2 sec for all of that? 2.5? If she ran 2.5 slower, would you think the same thing?
"Compared to what she experiences in average in other races"? What exactly do you mean here? What other races? I just rewatched this years Pre with her big (at the time) 3.55.97 PR from there. Here are the splits I got: I took the 1st 100m and then each 200m split from 1400m to the finish.
Visually watching the race the first 300m could definitely have been more efficient but by the time she hits 400m she is right behind ESP and that is where she stays running almost dead even splits (see above) until she passes her with 220m of the race remaining. In general that is phenomenally well paced and optimal way to race. She's on the rail/shoulder of ESP drafting for what, 900m of the race?
Here is the race - maybe you show us where the egregious slowing, surging, kicking happens? Her splits would suggest otherwise - even the final 200m is more a function of her holding her pace vs increasing it (it's the optic created by ESP slowing down) - in fact she even runs her final 200 slightly slower than the penultimate one.
What is a perfectly paced, optimally run race worth? Depends what you are comparing it to doesn't it.
Didn’t say there was egregious surging. You analyzed it more than me, so I’ll take your word for it. Many times I see people look at times without any consideration for distance run, wind, weather, pacing, drafting- and it can all add up to make a great run even faster. Sounds like you took that into consideration.
College athletes. Not in USADA testing pool yet. They were the NCAA’s responsibility.
I'm quite aware they're college athletes. Must be nice to train without being in the USADA testing pool and then toddle off to the Olympics. No other country's athletes get this kind of exemption from proper testing.
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NO, lily-white Australia is engaged in systematic doping along its own lines, the so called ' strictest drug testing procedures' you bring up are irrelevant when the unfavourable results, i.e. drug test failures, are simply covered up and swept under the carpet with complicity from national bodies assigned to perform said tests.
Quit trying to throw around your technological advancement as some sort of reason not to cheat, if anything it's an extremely strong reason to support the theory that australia is engaged in some high level doping
Lol, then there's that other country with "some of the strictest drug testing procedures and technology in the world", Great Britain, are they also "engaged in some high level doping"?
GB seem to have had a lot of success recently, what with Kerr, Hodgkinson, Wightman, Muir, Reekie, Bell (4sec PB in same race as Hull), etc, etc.
Then there's Norway, etc.
You people are on another planet.
In that Paris race out of 13 ligit starters there were:
10 PB's
1WR
Definitely "some high level doping" going on there lol.
