You've not explained what changed. Did she give you verifiable information, that you have actually verified, or did she just tell you something you wanted to hear and you are just carrying on like before?
You have shown that you do not possess the skepticism or curiosity to differentiate truths from lies or exaggerations from reality. So I am not sure how you can expect anyone would just take your word about any of this.
She's already misled you about her identity so I am not sure how you can trust that she's honest about her splits, time trials or race results.
In my opinion, you should not be allowed to mention this runner again until AFTER she runs something verifiable AND she acknowledges (in a verifiable manner) that you are her coach.
You should not bring up any workout, time trials, races until that time. Because until proven otherwise, 'Emma' is fictitious and does not exist.
Also, add me to the list of people who believe Jan will never break 20 minutes for a 5K. He may still have the ability but he is too lazy to ever find out.
Sir, I agree with you and I'm just as skeptical as you are about Emma but coach JS assures me that she's a real person but I suggested to him, in a private message, via WhatsApp , that he needs, as you said, more verifiable proof so I think we need to be patient because the coach is flying back to Sweden tomorrow morning so he'll be a little bit busy with his transfer and let's wait until Monday when he's settled back in his routine in his village to see where this develops.
What astonished me the most is to learn that this outstanding female athlete, former elite swimmer , (9:00/16:07, 3000/5000 time trials) is 6.2 height which is 1.88 centimeters, which is extremely tall for a female distance runner but anyway, as I said, let's wait and see how this goes.
As far as I know the only world class runner at that height is Jessica Judd from the UK who is a sub 15 minute 5,000 meter runner and then I think the Dutch runner, sorry her name escapes me temporarily, (Krum?), is also very tall around six feet tall or 1 meter 85 approximately.
The Dutch runner, Maureen Foster (not Krum!) 1.76/5.10 (overestimated her height!), bests (impressive!), 2:02:15, 3:59.79, 8:35.93, 1:11:22.
This means that as far as I know, unless corrected, there are no world-class female runners over six feet tall (1.83), in that kind of standard range.
Coach J.S's new phenomenon, aka Emma, aged 28, 6.2, 1.88 cm, and running 9:00/16:07, is truly an astonishing find, if confirmed, especially keeping in mind she's a complete neophyte to this running game, coming from an elite swimming background, which granted is a huge cardiovascular sport, but still very different from running on dry land.
"Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
This thread is absolutely ridiculous, when you consider like others I have managed to find multiple posts from this Emma West account, with comments from other Facebook users confirming it's a man, catfishing people . So why we are even having this conversation is absolutely ridiculous. It's a guy. Like please coach js, ghost, literally search Facebook yourselves you are making yourselves look really silly now.
Coach J.S's new phenomenon, aka Emma, aged 28, 6.2, 1.88 cm, and running 9:00/16:07, is truly an astonishing find, if confirmed, especially keeping in mind she's a complete neophyte to this running game, coming from an elite swimming background, which granted is a huge cardiovascular sport, but still very different from running on dry land.
No. This is garbage. Until proven otherwise, this person does not exist.
This thread is absolutely ridiculous, when you consider like others I have managed to find multiple posts from this Emma West account, with comments from other Facebook users confirming it's a man, catfishing people . So why we are even having this conversation is absolutely ridiculous. It's a guy. Like please coach js, ghost, literally search Facebook yourselves you are making yourselves look really silly now.
I've already expressed my reservations/doubts about a 6.2/1.88cm neophyte female, former swimmer, 28 years old, running 9:00/16:07, but let's give the coach his day in court, as he promises closure in the coming weeks.
Will make a test at treadmill running 4min/ km soon after new years eve.
You wrote that on December 4th, Jan. Just another thing you said you would do but didn't?
I'm right on my way back to my Sweden from Spain. If everything goes fine I will soon make the test to see how it feels and turns out.
By the way, if someone looking to start the new year with a world topclass online running coach, just send a message. Welcome! COACH J.S, THE MAGIC WIZARD 🇸🇪🧙🏼♂️🇸🇪
You wrote that on December 4th, Jan. Just another thing you said you would do but didn't?
I'm right on my way back to my Sweden from Spain. If everything goes fine I will soon make the test to see how it feels and turns out.
By the way, if someone looking to start the new year with a world topclass online running coach, just send a message. Welcome! COACH J.S, THE MAGIC WIZARD 🇸🇪🧙🏼♂️🇸🇪
If someone is looking to start the new year with a world "topclass online running coach" they should avoid you. You are a scammer.
I'm right on my way back to my Sweden from Spain. If everything goes fine I will soon make the test to see how it feels and turns out.
By the way, if someone looking to start the new year with a world topclass online running coach, just send a message. Welcome! COACH J.S, THE MAGIC WIZARD 🇸🇪🧙🏼♂️🇸🇪
If someone is looking to start the new year with a world "topclass online running coach" they should avoid you. You are a scammer.
Sir, Mr T G.
Coach JS already knows my skepticism and doubt about a six foot two, 1.88cm neophyte female runner (albeit allegedly previous history as elite swimmer) aged 28 running 9:00 minutes flat and 16 minutes flat for 3K and 5K and all the more so because of her size which is already anomalous for a distance runner, (she would be selected as a forward in women's NCAA basketball 🏀! )and even more so obviously for a female harrier, but I truly believe that coach Stenson believes in this woman and believes the times that she has allegedly run so let's give the coach a little time to either prove or disprove his belief.
We cannot control the Wizard's thought processes. He is certainly unorthodox, but let's focus on the positives, including his undeniable passion for the sport. Not everything is black or white, shades of grey exist.
Thank you.
Quote: To the youngster talking nonsense Zeno said, "The reason why we have two ears and only one mouth is so we might listen more and talk less." - Diogenes Laertius, 'Lives of Eminent Philosophers.'
If someone is looking to start the new year with a world "topclass online running coach" they should avoid you. You are a scammer.
Sir, Mr T G.
Coach JS already knows my skepticism and doubt about a six foot two, 1.88cm neophyte female runner (albeit allegedly previous history as elite swimmer) aged 28 running 9:00 minutes flat and 16 minutes flat for 3K and 5K and all the more so because of her size which is already anomalous for a distance runner, (she would be selected as a forward in women's NCAA basketball 🏀! )and even more so obviously for a female harrier, but I truly believe that coach Stenson believes in this woman and believes the times that she has allegedly run so let's give the coach a little time to either prove or disprove his belief.
We cannot control the Wizard's thought processes. He is certainly unorthodox, but let's focus on the positives, including his undeniable passion for the sport. Not everything is black or white, shades of grey exist.
Thank you.
Quote: To the youngster talking nonsense Zeno said, "The reason why we have two ears and only one mouth is so we might listen more and talk less." - Diogenes Laertius, 'Lives of Eminent Philosophers.'
Hello, Ghost1!
I will try to do that, to focus on the positives. Jan has an undeniable passion for the sport. He is passionate about his system. He is passionate about having his athletes improve.
And I think that's about it.
Quote: "Some liars are so expert they deceive themselves." - Austin O'Malley
JS is so desperate for fame and recognition that is now getting trolled with Emma a second time. Have you had a video chat with this "real" runner? Have you seen the swimming results? And female has run a 16:05 5k on the trails.
JS is so desperate for fame and recognition that is now getting trolled with Emma a second time. Have you had a video chat with this "real" runner? Have you seen the swimming results? And female has run a 16:05 5k on the trails.
It has come up things that convince me this really is a great talented young female runner ( she is younger than 27). When that guy told it was most truly a high school boy behind the fb wall I first thought it could be so. Then I thought a guy found som pleasure in tricking me or even used my coaching to improve his own running. But now when "Emma " told me some crucial things I'm convinced she really contacted me to get coaching and to see how good she can be in running. Couple of days ago she did 20 x 300m @ 51-52 sec. I see in her myself when I trained similar times to run 3:58 1500m, 8:20 3000m and 14:20 5000m.She will soon run the season's first indoor 3000 or 5000m but of course at her real name that isn't " Emma West" . I won't be able to communicate how the race went in minutes and seconds and she will in time 'expose' herself by probably run very fast and climb the top USA running lists.I understand you my stalkers during several years are keen on knowing the name , but you and everyone else will be so kind and just wait and see. 😁🧙🏼♂️
This is ridiculous and overly dramatic. Why can't you tell the name of an athlete you coach? Is she ashamed? Have you spoken to this athlete over video chat? I still think it's all a sham like the many future World Records you claimed, the sub 16:00 5k at over 60 years old, etc.
Give me one reason why anyone should believe you? Until you provide something verifiable, this is all fiction.
We don't need to have patience. It is you who needs to have patience. You need to wait until you receive something verified before claiming this person or their times are real. Until you can prove they are real we have more than enough right to question you and ask for proof.
If you claim something without backing it up with evidence then we can question you. Patience? We are responding to the claims YOU are making.
As a couple of others have posted, quite literally anyone can log into Facebook via a laptop (it doesn't work as well on a mobile) and then reverse search public posts of "Emma West". It is literally irrelevant what Coach JS posts as this account is absolutely, categorically, 100% a catfish account of which multiple people have already said about her. The account has been trying to chat to guys, as a girl, so it's likely a gay guy hiding behind a female account. It's quite a common thing. It's a high school kid, almost certainly, I would imagine. Maybe college age. But it's 100% a guy, there are literally REAL people exposing "her" publicly. It's an absolute farce we are even having this conversation.
This is ridiculous and overly dramatic. Why can't you tell the name of an athlete you coach? Is she ashamed? Have you spoken to this athlete over video chat? I still think it's all a sham like the many future World Records you claimed, the sub 16:00 5k at over 60 years old, etc.
You have of course the right to think so.The cause her real name stays in secret I'm not allowed to communicate in public, so she will present herself by running fast time by time. I just sometimes will present here the workout training times she does.
You have of course the right to think so.The cause her real name stays in secret I'm not allowed to communicate in public, so she will present herself by running fast time by time. I just sometimes will present here the workout training times she does.
So in other words you will wait for some person to run a fast time and then claim to coach them. Until this person goes on record in an interview saying that you coach them NO ONE will believe you, nor should they.
Nice way to try and grab attention Jan....Are those really your PRs ? Please prove them.
I see that your teammate back in the day, early 1980s was always faster than you,,,,Soren Hellmark. Were you really born in 1957 ? That makes you closer to 70 than 60....