DJT indicted on four counts related to January 6

Wrong.

All you libs have incessantly talked about Trump on the Biden thread and made it a TDS thread. If I brought up Sleepy Joe on this thread, then you would have a point. It's the right thread to talk about Trump.

Mean tweets 2024!

All of which concerning Trump reinforces the fears many constitutional political commentators have that American is determined on a path to lose its democracy.

Reminder that under Trump's legal theory, President Biden could have Trump renditioned to a CIA black site, tortured with a diet of whole grains, fruits and veggies, forced to read the Bible, ordered to do cardiovascular exercise and held there forever in secret...
And Biden could never be held criminally accountable.

What drugs are you on? Smoking crack? Losing our democracy- Hilarious!!!! You are entering Baghdad "we're doomed" agip territory.

"Criminally accountable"?!? For what??? . . . Oh wait, I missed the part about veggies.

Carry on.

Posting on crack is very difficult, just FYI.

This kind of backfired on Trump. The Fake Electors case was stayed pending appeal, but the prosecution kept sending Trump volumes of discovery documents and even filed a pretrial motion to exclude certain evidence. Tried then filed a motion for sanctions claiming the prosecution was violating the stay order. Judge Chut denied the sanctions, but did require the prosecution to ask before filing any more pretrial motions AND they cannot file pretrial motions related to the appeal issues (which would be almost everything). So Trump doesn't get the sanction order he can yell about on Troof Social, and he also will likely no longer get any "sneak preview" on prosecution motion and maybe even further discovery. The prosecution will probably stop what they were doing (which was kind of weird and of limited value anyway).

For any Trumpers that might wander into this thread.

Trump tweeted this morning that a President (himself) should have total immunity including “ crossing the line”. Of course the line is legality.

Trump has moved from “I’m innocent” to it’s a “political witch hunt.” Now he is fully transitioned into the “yes it was illegal but I should be able to” defense

I mention this because you Trumpers need to change your boot licking defenses accordingly. The political witch hunt stuff is so yesterday

Lines up with his 'dictator on Day 1' comments. And day 2, 3, 4...

Without fail, one of the local ballwashers will write a response purporting to tell you what he really meant to say.

Ever notice that the guy that "tells it like it is" always needs someone else to filter his language.

No, no no, my Lord and master would never say that he can commit any crime as president without consequences, that's fake news, he is saying it's up to the Senate to convict and if they don't then he can commit any crime he chooses without consequence.

I will never ever ever criticize my Lord and master for saying he can commit crimes without punishment.

Uhm, uhm, uhm, that's what crooked Joe does not my Lord and Savior, who by the way is being ng crucified by the deep state

..............I don't think we should talk about this......on this thread.

But isn't that just on "total immunity day"?

Because on the OTHER days, Biden COULD be punished IF the Senate convicts him of the same thing in an impeachment, right?

RIGHT UP UNTIL (5 minutes later) his lawyers argue that, OF COURSE, he can't be prosecuted for something that he's ALREADY been punished for by the Senate.....of course.

It is a thing of beauty.

You can't be prosecuted unless you've been impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate.

But if that happens, you can't be prosecuted because that would be double jeopardy.

If ever there was a solid legal argument, surely it is in favor of that ironclad position. After all, no man is above the law, right... except Presidents who "cross the line."

The Founding Fathers definitely approve!

But you do have to appreciate their challenge. It's not like he doesn't revert to previous excuses on a dime. Or, perhaps more often, express contradictory defenses simultaneously.

Trumpers have solved this, of course, by simply believing that ANYTHING he says or does is fine. And their words and votes flow accordingly.

Don't forget: And limit Trump to 20 sheets of single-ply, rough, toilet paper per dump and a single flush. Trump's only choice will be using his fingers and the toilet bowl to cleanup. Can you feel his pain?

REMEMBER, it's JUST drilling and the border !!! TRUST HIM !!!

(Gary and Sally and the other mo-rans do!)

We reached perfection on that a few years ago when people explained away his, "Look, we just need to find 11K votes."

I'm not sure if anyone used the "It was just the Georgia heat getting to him," but that would have been nice, and not at all hurt by the fact that it was a phone call, and I'm pretty certain he wasn't in GA.

Truth never matters. Gather my people, in the shelter, quickly, the enemy is coming. Get your free cup of grape drink......

Exactly!

The day that we as a country expect a President to discharge his duties for 4 years without committing multiple felonies across many jurisdictions is the day I stop calling this country the United States of America.

it goes against everything we are as a nation.

You have to love Republicans. Nikki Haley said, "If Trump continues to lie about me, I'm going to tell the truth about Trump".

Oh what a threat! A republican threatening to tell the truth, Haley threatening to tell the truth? Oh she wouldn't dare.

Mean, indeed. Mean green, mother machine.

Here is Trump's Brief in the Colorado appeal to The Supremes.

He leads with the argument that a president is not an "officer" as recited in the 14th Amendment. Trump places a heavy emphasis on this - leads with it and goes on with it for 13 pages. So did a lot of Amicus briefs I skimmed through. They must think this is a real winner argument that the SCOTUS can use to reverse the Colorado Supreme Court quickly and easily, without getting near the insurrection issues. I tend to agree. Remember that the Colorado district court also found a president is not an officer for the 14th Amendment.

Trump then argues he never engaged in insurrection, rather "President Trump repeatedly called for peace, patriotism, and law and order." I don't think he does a very good job here. He fails yet again to provide a definition of "insurrection" which means he doesn't have a reasonable one to propose. He just recites all his "peaceful" tweets/post and says that can't be an insurrection. Some other attacks on the credibliity of the evidence, but does not seem to address any of the facts set forth by Colorado courts. I think Trump wants to avoid this topic as much as possible, other than to say "whatever those guys did, I had nothing to do with it."

He argues that the judiciary can only enforce section 3 of the 14th Amendment "through congressional implementing legislation such as 18 U.S.C. § 2383." He just relies on that Griffin case, but does not say much else at all.

What is surprisingly absent as far as I can tell is ANY kind of due process argument that had been mentioned by a lot of commentators and that was discussed quite a bit in this thread. Trump must have come to the conclusion that was a weak argument. Go figure. I thought it would have been the lead argument.