yyy wrote:
his 7:37
I was thinking the same thing... wow
yyy wrote:
his 7:37
I was thinking the same thing... wow
I imagine that his 2:12 performance will be good enough to make the OLYMPIC Standard.
2:11:30 is only one way to resch the standard.
Last year 2:13:46 would have been ranked high enough to make the Olympics.
Bernards Best Friend wrote:
BL is the man! I thought that his pacing performance at 42 at the Breaking 2 was more impressive than Kipechoge’s run
Bernard lagat would crush Kevin Castille, actually he would lap him in a 5,000 plus some, maybe he would be a lap and half ahead of him. In a Marathon, since Kevin runs 2:20's or worse, Benard would be so far ahead he would be back at the hotel taking a shower when Kevin finish, if he doesn't DNF.?????
rojo wrote:
What a stud. Can he possibly make the Olympic team in the marathon at age 45?
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/07/bernard-lagat-runs-21210-marathon-at-age-44-to-break-us-masters-record/https://twitter.com/jgault13/status/1147667275866091520
It looks like low mileage is the future, at least if you want a long career.
Helps to have insane natural speed.
A bit suspect.
Wasn't Goucher beating him in college?
In Goucher’s wheelhouse events when Lagat was an 800/1500 specialist...doesn’t mean much. If I beat Matt Boling in a 1000m does that count for much if he moves up in 10 years?
Why am I not surprised that a star of the late EPO era, who himself returned a positive drug test, is still going strong?
Armstronglivs wrote:
Why am I not surprised that a star of the late EPO era, who himself returned a positive drug test, is still going strong?
Why are you not surprised that only one guy is still going?
Bad Wigins wrote:
...
If that money's smart, back it up with some evidence. Here's some contrary: Look over the AGWR's and you may be surprised to find endurance drops faster than speed. Sprint and MD training remains easy as long as you're not a stupid overtrainer, which Lagat never was.
...
Look over the WADA scales; speed drops precipitously, unlike endurance.
Which is OBVIOUS to all of us older runners, so apparently you have neither experience nor education in the field.
He can definitely make the team. Besides Rupp, who could be out after his recent surgery. We are stocked full of "beta 2nd tier marathoners" Daddy Lagat knows how to get it done.
Hardloper wrote:
Burr Lyn wrote:
^ Dumb post. I would ask your if you were new here, but, sadly, you can't claim that excuse.
Berlin is a much better course for a fast time than NYC. Much better.
. . .
. . .
In case you missed it. Berlin is a much faster course.
Low IQ response. You only need to place top 10 at NYC to get an automatic standard, which can be as slow as 2:16. You shouldn't need the automatic standard anyway, it's only an insurance policy in case the USATF goes full stupid.
You are an IDIOT. Berlin is the faster course.
Jerry Maguire wrote:
He can definitely make the team. Besides Rupp, who could be out after his recent surgery. We are stocked full of "beta 2nd tier marathoners" Daddy Lagat knows how to get it done.
Imagine a 2020 US ‘Thon Team of Lagat, Meb, and Abdi
The reality is 40 is not all that old. Most people choose a career by 40 which means the spikes are hung up. Bernard has kept the cycle going which is possible if you can stay healthy and injury free. Think of it this way modern technology is so solid now that it is possible to keep an athletic career going well into your 40's and more are doing it. I myself went down with a Kemoy Campbell situation at age 32 and at 37 I can't race anymore but still run and can probably break 5:00 in a mile post heart attack. 50 years ago Bernards running would be unheard of and I would be dead.
Stay Heathy and Run strong my friends.
Some of you may have noticed that Gault's interesting masters record list does NOT include marks for 1600m nor 3200m. This is because they are not events, despite threads continuously appearing to discuss attempts to train for and race these distances.
However, Lagat (not his real name from birth, as he made it up, but his official name for US purposes) does not have all the records in the listed span. Missing are 12km (some would say questionable whether it's an event but Molly Huddle seems to have some kind of record for it) and the undisputedly legitimate 15km and 20km. The latter he probably would have if a timing trap had been set up during the HM. Records are also kept for 25km and 30km but the latter records tend to be held by en-route timing during marathon (ie Kipchoge in Berlin) so still missing is the 25. More rarely run (Mosop in Eugene) are 25,000 and 30,000 on the track. The most obvious missing record in the 1500-marathon range is the steeplechase. So although he most certainly does not possess American Masters Records for the whole range (even 2000m is missing, and that is a World Record-eligible event according to the IAAF and El G) the list is still very interesting and impressive!
Lagat fan wrote:
rojo wrote:
What a stud. Can he possibly make the Olympic team in the marathon at age 45?
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/07/bernard-lagat-runs-21210-marathon-at-age-44-to-break-us-masters-record/https://twitter.com/jgault13/status/1147667275866091520It looks like low mileage is the future, at least if you want a long career.
What about Haile Gebrselassie? Adjusting for his actual age, he was around 44 when he ran 2:08 at Tokyo marathon in 2012.
The reality is Lagat won't need to standards unless USATF continues it's ineptitude.
1) Some people are cautiously optimistic the IAAF will grant top 3 the standard.
2) Even if that's the case, after this result, if he's top 3 at the Trials, he'll be world ranked high enough to go.
The only way he wouldn't make it is if USATF was dumb enough to say we're only picking amongst people with the standard. So even though Lagat was 3rd in 2:11:35, we'll take Jared Ward who was 8th in 2:14:44.
Moctezuma wrote:
The IAAF let him off on a technicality. When Lagat and his crooked coach asked for the IAAF to make an apologetic statement the IAAF told them that if they didn't shut up they would make "some things" public and Lagat et al shut up. Even Mr. PC himself, Gary Hill at TafNews remarked on this.
Proof please of the Gary Hill comment?
I'd like to see what Gary wrote.
3000m steeplechase is “up” from the 1500. Lagat does not have the 3k steeple record. So he does not have every masters record 1500 and up
rojo wrote:
Moctezuma wrote:
The IAAF let him off on a technicality. When Lagat and his crooked coach asked for the IAAF to make an apologetic statement the IAAF told them that if they didn't shut up they would make "some things" public and Lagat et al shut up. Even Mr. PC himself, Gary Hill at TafNews remarked on this.
Proof please of the Gary Hill comment?
I'd like to see what Gary wrote.
Technicality?: No proper chain-of-custody as required. A sample left unprotect; in a car trunk; not in a cooled container; which led to the sample being cooked.
Reality: 1000s of samples and nothing. Absolutely nothing. . . . . And no link to be found to Gary Hill ever commenting about Lagat--if he did comment he removed it long ago.