what's the difference between an affolder hater and a soren knudsen hater? nothing. they are both losers.
hashtag soren motherfuckin adventure bro
affolder i wish you the best of luck in your career as well
lets enjoy their success with them instead of hating. namaste brothers. goodnight.
Besides California, do any states not run indoor? I really don't know. But it seems like most states do.[/quote]
We didn't in Georgia and I doubt it is run in Florida. I know some high school teams went to a few indoor meets but there is no official georgia indoor season as there is no indoor track in the state...which sucks.
Georgia kids put up some national class times. The best kids are running indoor which is what prompted the comments. People are insinuating that LV isn't as good as it would appear. But it doesn't matter if the thousands of slow kids are not running indoor. We are talking about the top kids.
Fast kids wrote:
Georgia kids put up some national class times. The best kids are running indoor which is what prompted the comments. People are insinuating that LV isn't as good as it would appear. But it doesn't matter if the thousands of slow kids are not running indoor. We are talking about the top kids.
I won NXN and did not race indoors because it sucks
York 1999. Best HS XC team ever, even better than Carmel.
From earlier LR posts: YORK, Illinois: One of the all-time great teams, in the modern era Joe Newton’s 1999 York team, which decimated the Illinois State Championships with 24 points, must be in consideration for best all-time. Newton’s top five runners all placed in the top ten at the championships with a 14:31.4 3-mile average. The total team time of 72:37 set in the 99' state meet is regarded as the US record over 3-miles. Led by individual standout Donald Sage an 8:42 3200 meter runner the team was deep as the spread from 2-5 was 12-seconds. The top five were also deep, deep, deep, with a front four all under 9:15 for two-miles. 1. Donald Sage 8:42; 2. Adam Palumbo 9:12; 3. Peter Cioni 9:12; 4. Adam Roche 9:14; 5. Peter Stasiulis 9:27. Touted by experts following the state championships as possibly the best ever, a team that coach Joe Newton proclaimed his best ever and which was reported by former Milesplit National Editor Scott Bush in his piece “On the Track with the Dukes of York”, “They want to be the best; they want to be the new team to be compared to.…which is considered the best ever in Illinois history and was the number one team in the nation according to The Harrier that year.” Were they the best in Illinois state or US history?
LV will put up a better 5th place 3200 this year.
Loudoun Valley had 2 sub 9 guys last year and 5th 3200 was 9:17. Their 6th guy ran 9:24 which was faster than York;s 5th. Their team is even better this year.
greenliner wrote:
York 1999. Best HS XC team ever, even better than Carmel.
From earlier LR posts: YORK, Illinois: One of the all-time great teams, in the modern era Joe Newton’s 1999 York team, which decimated the Illinois State Championships with 24 points, must be in consideration for best all-time. Newton’s top five runners all placed in the top ten at the championships with a 14:31.4 3-mile average. The total team time of 72:37 set in the 99' state meet is regarded as the US record over 3-miles. Led by individual standout Donald Sage an 8:42 3200 meter runner the team was deep as the spread from 2-5 was 12-seconds. The top five were also deep, deep, deep, with a front four all under 9:15 for two-miles. 1. Donald Sage 8:42; 2. Adam Palumbo 9:12; 3. Peter Cioni 9:12; 4. Adam Roche 9:14; 5. Peter Stasiulis 9:27. Touted by experts following the state championships as possibly the best ever, a team that coach Joe Newton proclaimed his best ever and which was reported by former Milesplit National Editor Scott Bush in his piece “On the Track with the Dukes of York”, “They want to be the best; they want to be the new team to be compared to.…which is considered the best ever in Illinois history and was the number one team in the nation according to The Harrier that year.” Were they the best in Illinois state or US history?
Missing from their famous top 7 that season was Tim Hobbs. Tim Hobbs ran 1:52 to win the 800m state title that spring.
This past indoor season Loudoun Valley did the following in the 3200
9:11 - 9:14 - 9:21 - 9:23 - 9:26 - 9:27 - 9:30
Not done.....
9:36 - 9:39 - 9:49 - 9:52 - 9:58 - 9:59
13 guys sub 10 indoor. 8 of those were Jr's.
Thats pretty impressive.
HolyDepthBatman wrote:
This past indoor season Loudoun Valley did the following in the 3200
9:11 - 9:14 - 9:21 - 9:23 - 9:26 - 9:27 - 9:30
Not done.....
9:36 - 9:39 - 9:49 - 9:52 - 9:58 - 9:59
13 guys sub 10 indoor. 8 of those were recruited.
Thats pretty impressive.
Fixed.
Loudoun Valley is the mecca of XC these days
lakewood wrote:
dbsquirtNXC21 wrote:
Florida and Texas don't
last time I checked Tyrese Cooper (florida) runs indoor meets and carter cheeseman (texas) was the national champion indoors
There are a few meets in Texas, but nobody cares about indoor in Texas. There's no state meet, nothing.
HolyDepthBatman wrote:
This past indoor season Loudoun Valley did the following in the 3200
9:11 - 9:14 - 9:21 - 9:23 - 9:26 - 9:27 - 9:30
Not done.....
9:36 - 9:39 - 9:49 - 9:52 - 9:58 - 9:59
13 guys sub 10 indoor. 8 of those were Jr's.
Thats pretty impressive.
Southlake Carroll ran this in one meet March 16th:
*5000m
*Nate Lannen (11th grade) ran the 1600 in 4:21 at this meet instead (also ran 9:19 this season as well for 3200).
Jack Myers 12 Southlake Carroll 15:11
Drew Bliss 12 Southlake Carroll 15:23
Henry Gardner 12 Southlake Carroll 15:28
Antonio Florcruz 10 Southlake Carroll 15:28
Hayden Coleman 12 Southlake Carroll 15:30
Chris Tracht 11 Southlake Carroll 15:33
Kieran Beirne 11 Southlake Carroll 15:48
Matthew Sims 11 Southlake Carroll 15:50
Grant Anderson 11 Southlake Carroll 15:56
4 other guys at 16:1x+, and many more beyond that.
...and they're a team that finished only 20th at NXN.
Here's the Woodlands:
3200m
Ben Shearer 10 9:14
Brian Sewell 10 The Woodlands 9:29.44
Chance Gibson 10 The Woodlands 9:39.18
Aidan Walton 11 The Woodlands 9:49.08
Caden Cymbala 10 The Woodlands 9:55.16
3000m
Ryan Cardinal 11 The Woodlands 8:44.40 (also ran 9:22 back in February for 3200)
Ethan Hammer 11 The Woodlands 8:50.27
Benjamin Amundson 11 The Woodlands 8:53.12 (ran 9:47 back in February for 3200)
The Woodlands didn't even make NXN.
Neither of these teams are as good as Loudoun Valley, but they better watch out next year. Both teams are coming back, loaded as well. Keep in mind, one finished near last place at NXN and one didn't even qualify.
Heracles wrote:
Southlake Carroll ran this in one meet March 16th:
*5000m
*Nate Lannen (11th grade) ran the 1600 in 4:21 at this meet instead (also ran 9:19 this season as well for 3200).
Jack Myers 12 Southlake Carroll 15:11
Drew Bliss 12 Southlake Carroll 15:23
Henry Gardner 12 Southlake Carroll 15:28
Antonio Florcruz 10 Southlake Carroll 15:28
Hayden Coleman 12 Southlake Carroll 15:30
Chris Tracht 11 Southlake Carroll 15:33
Kieran Beirne 11 Southlake Carroll 15:48
Matthew Sims 11 Southlake Carroll 15:50
Grant Anderson 11 Southlake Carroll 15:56
4 other guys at 16:1x+, and many more beyond that.
...and they're a team that finished only 20th at NXN.
Neither of these teams are as good as Loudoun Valley, but they better watch out next year. Both teams are coming back, loaded as well. Keep in mind, one finished near last place at NXN and one didn't even qualify.
That's cute but LV placed their entire top 5 ahead of Southlakes #1 at NXN. LV scored 77 points and Southlake's top runner was 82nd. Let that sink in for a moment.....LV scored 77 points and Southlake's top guy was 82nd.
Is their depth impressive? sure. But they are not a threat whatsoever to win the title unless a couple of those guys drop some massive PRs in the 5k.
I guess Southlake Carroll probably isn't the best team of all-time then. That would require having 1 or 2 guys breaking up another team's top 5.
Barry Tinkle wrote:
Heracles wrote:
Southlake Carroll ran this in one meet March 16th:
*5000m
*Nate Lannen (11th grade) ran the 1600 in 4:21 at this meet instead (also ran 9:19 this season as well for 3200).
Jack Myers 12 Southlake Carroll 15:11
Drew Bliss 12 Southlake Carroll 15:23
Henry Gardner 12 Southlake Carroll 15:28
Antonio Florcruz 10 Southlake Carroll 15:28
Hayden Coleman 12 Southlake Carroll 15:30
Chris Tracht 11 Southlake Carroll 15:33
Kieran Beirne 11 Southlake Carroll 15:48
Matthew Sims 11 Southlake Carroll 15:50
Grant Anderson 11 Southlake Carroll 15:56
4 other guys at 16:1x+, and many more beyond that.
...and they're a team that finished only 20th at NXN.
Neither of these teams are as good as Loudoun Valley, but they better watch out next year. Both teams are coming back, loaded as well. Keep in mind, one finished near last place at NXN and one didn't even qualify.
That's cute but LV placed their entire top 5 ahead of Southlakes #1 at NXN. LV scored 77 points and Southlake's top runner was 82nd. Let that sink in for a moment.....LV scored 77 points and Southlake's top guy was 82nd.
Is their depth impressive? sure. But they are not a threat whatsoever to win the title unless a couple of those guys drop some massive PRs in the 5k.
LV alltimer wrote:
I guess Southlake Carroll probably isn't the best team of all-time then. That would require having 1 or 2 guys breaking up another team's top 5.
I like how you two try to subtlety change the point of my post, because I wasn't bandwagon. The whole point, which was obvious by anyone with a little reading comprehension, was that LV should be running much better times in Track (as indicated by what I quoted in the original post) if bottom of the barrel teams like SLC and the Woodlands are running not far off in comparison during track. Again, SLC was 20th at NXN, and TWL didn't even qualify.
You say it's cute and point out a fact about XC, but in fact, that same #1 for SLC is running much quicker times than LV's top 5 besides Sam and Hunter in track... lol.
They clearly dominate at XC, but run mediocre times in Track (besides Sam and Hunter). What's up with that?
Heracles wrote:
I like how you two try to subtlety change the point of my post, because I wasn't bandwagon. The whole point, which was obvious by anyone with a little reading comprehension, was that LV should be running much better times in Track (as indicated by what I quoted in the original post) if bottom of the barrel teams like SLC and the Woodlands are running not far off in comparison during track. Again, SLC was 20th at NXN, and TWL didn't even qualify.
You say it's cute and point out a fact about XC, but in fact, that same #1 for SLC is running much quicker times than LV's top 5 besides Sam and Hunter in track... lol.
They clearly dominate at XC, but run mediocre times in Track (besides Sam and Hunter). What's up with that?
No, our reading comprehension is just fine. You literally said to watch out next year for soutlake after posting a bunch of mediocre times. We then pointed out that they are no thread to winning the title and gave several pieces of supporting evidence.
Not sure why you are saying that SLC is running much faster times than LV minus LV's top 2 guys. That's like saying...the golden state warriors are better than the 90s bulls if the 90s bulls didn't have jordan and pippen. Thanks captain obvious.
Kind of weird for you to compare LV to SLC considering LV is several levels above SLC. It's not even close. Let me know if you can't comprehend or if you have more random SLC facts to throw at us like "well if LV didn't have fast people then SLC would be running faster times" lmfao
Why is SLC so bad at XC? Their track times suggest that they should do better.
they are insane
Barry Tinkle wrote:
Heracles wrote:
I like how you two try to subtlety change the point of my post, because I wasn't bandwagon. The whole point, which was obvious by anyone with a little reading comprehension, was that LV should be running much better times in Track (as indicated by what I quoted in the original post) if bottom of the barrel teams like SLC and the Woodlands are running not far off in comparison during track. Again, SLC was 20th at NXN, and TWL didn't even qualify.
You say it's cute and point out a fact about XC, but in fact, that same #1 for SLC is running much quicker times than LV's top 5 besides Sam and Hunter in track... lol.
They clearly dominate at XC, but run mediocre times in Track (besides Sam and Hunter). What's up with that?
No, our reading comprehension is just fine. You literally said to watch out next year for soutlake after posting a bunch of mediocre times. We then pointed out that they are no thread to winning the title and gave several pieces of supporting evidence.
Not sure why you are saying that SLC is running much faster times than LV minus LV's top 2 guys. That's like saying...the golden state warriors are better than the 90s bulls if the 90s bulls didn't have jordan and pippen. Thanks captain obvious.
Kind of weird for you to compare LV to SLC considering LV is several levels above SLC. It's not even close. Let me know if you can't comprehend or if you have more random SLC facts to throw at us like "well if LV didn't have fast people then SLC would be running faster times" lmfao
Mediocre times, LMAO. Tell LV to step it up their recruiting because it appears their XC success doesn't carry over to T&F. They might need some more recruiters next year to keep the #1 spot. I mean, have you seen the way their guys are running in outdoor track right now, besides Sam and Hunter (of course)?
You're not sure why I mentioned the #1 for SLC is running faster besides Sam and Hunter? I mean, wasn't it you who made the statement about how LV had their top 5 in front of him in XC? Does it hurt when I point out basically that LV must have regressed or something?
I'm just wondering how LV runs such great times at XC but then come Track season their roster turns mediocre (besides their top two, of course).